Getting bets on. The Professional Punters dilemma

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THE ART OF WINNER-FINDING

 Professional Punters  betting challenges

Getting bets on

OKAY, THE TITLE IS ALREADY SOMEWHAT MISLEADING! We have covered many of the aspects of actually identifying the sort of horse that is liable to make you money. This time I am addressing a persistent problem for the successful or semi-successful punter: that of actually placing bets.

Before launching in to the rights and wrongs of the uneasy game of financial chess played between bookmakers and punters, a thorough grounding in debate, or arguing if I am truthful, dictates I ought to present both sides of the argument.

Perhaps we can look at the punter’s case first. He contends that bookmakers invite bets by pricing up horses and if they are incorrect, it is his prerogative to revise his betting accordingly. Therefore, when the bookmaker offers 8/1 about a horse he priced the night before and the going has altered, or there is a noticeable change in draw bias, the punter bemoans the fact he cannot avail himself of the price. After all, his argument will meander, the price did not stipulate, ‘only available if nothing has occurred that is likely to alter the chance of said runner since this price was framed.’ Refusing bets on this animal is tantamount to saying 8/1 is only available providing the horse is not three lengths clear with a hundred yards to cover. The bookmaker that assessed its chance as being 8/1 realises he may have got it wrong and is restricting how much is available. Surely, such behaviour is scandalous!

Okay, let us look at this from the bookmaker’s perspective. He has priced up the race in good faith, assuming that the prices reflect a rough betting pattern on the event in question. So in the case of the 8/1 chance, he would expect approximately eleven percent of all punters betting on the event to back that particular runner. When it is quite plain that, for whatever reason, instead of eleven percent of punters wishing to back it, something like twenty-five percent of punters wish to be on [making it a 3/1 chance in real terms], one of two things has occurred. Either the bookmakers have made a massive collective mistake, or something beyond their control has manifested itself making demand for the 8/1 chance radically increase. Possibly the horse is a Pricewise selection or, as earlier illustrated, circumstances have altered.

Understandably, the bookmaker needs and wants to take evasive action. That means from his point of view two things must happen: he has to restrict the bets he takes on the horse and, at the earliest opportunity, the price must be altered to a more realistic one.

At the risk of stating the obvious, I will state it anyway as it seems to be overlooked by many a disgruntled punter. Bookmakers are not there to provide a service. They are in business to make money. They are not obliged to accommodate punters at all costs. In their defence, they do try to cater for regular smaller-stake clients, those they perceive as comprising their core business. But the first sort of customer to receive a knock-back is the one they do not really want – the one that plays for high stakes.

Allow me to deviate for just a paragraph here and cite the current situation facing banks. On the face of it, their reluctance to pass on the interest rate decrease appears shameful. But is it? Despite what would be protestations to the contrary, Government has engineered this change in interest rates. By reacting in a prescribed manner by the Bank of England, banks and building societies are running the risk of exacerbating present financial problems. Government is attempting to refloat the economy by stimulating borrowing. In part, that is how we find ourselves in our current situation. As commercial businesses, banks are unprepared to be Government-managed, making them reluctant to lend money at disadvantageous rates and to people or companies that are likely to be poor risks. I am afraid under the present crisis that means all of us have to be including in this category. (However, the passing of the borrowing rate to existing mortgage holders would be a reasonable compromise.) So a present stand-off exists between commercial companies of great strength and influence, and a Government whose policies are crumbling but that holds enormous power. The fact banks are resisting, demonstrates the strength of the free market. Money does not lie; not in world economy or on the racecourse. Unless we live in a police State, enterprise and a free market will always face up to the might of Government when it suspects it is in its interest to do so.

Know thy enemy! As punters, it is important for us to understand the way bookmakers operate, just as they know how we tick. In the example given, I can sympathise to an extent with the bookmaker’s plight.

Another popular complaint from punters is that they cannot get on. Half-hearted punters will tell you they are constantly knocked back. The inference is that they are too warm for the bookmakers to handle. The truth is that often they are taking the piss. Ask to back the second favourite each-way for serious money when the favourite is odds-on and the bookmaker will not want to know. Would you? It is a snide bet. No wonder this request is refused; such a punter is nothing short of a nuisance and is prejudicing his future chances. Try asking your local greengrocer if he will sell you 3 kilos of apples (or apples’s as greengrocers spell them), at cost, and he will soon tell you where to go. The principle is the same! Give a decent bookmaker a chance of winning from you and he will reciprocate by giving you a chance of winning from him. Ask the punter that tells you he is holding his own, breaking even, or beating his bookmaker one question: ‘Did your bookmaker send you a diary this year?’ If the answer is yes, the punter is a loser! Bookmakers do not send free diaries to customers that cost them money!

In some cases, heavy-hitters or very shrewd or well-informed punters cannot get on pure and simple. To put the bookmaker’s case, their bets can be so large they tip the scales of what is supposed to be a balanced book wildly out of kilter. No bookmaker wants a field book that contains ten £20 bets and one of £3,000. The clue is in the title. He is attempting to make a book and clearly cannot do that if it is top-heavy. What the £3,000 bettor is forcing the bookmaker to do is to gamble, and bookmakers are not in that business; after all that is supposed to be our province. To restore some equilibrium to the argument, bookmakers should know by now that no book is balanced. Most races only provide three or four runners that attract significant support. But there are occasions when all those for money get beaten, meaning the layer has the luxury of a clear book. It comes and goes. I do sympathise with punters known to be warm that open accounts with bookmakers. They phone to place a bet in the region of £800 (only part of their overall bet but a reasonable request for an individual firm) only to be told they can have £25. That is a disgrace! Bookmakers should refuse to either conduct business with select punters lock stock and barrel, or accept their wagers without too much question. The problem with the present system as far as hot punters are concerned is that, rather like the betting in-running players on the exchanges, they only get accommodated on potential losers. This means the bookmaker is dictating the extent of their business, which is bad news. The money belongs to the punter and if denied the chance to back horses identified as potential winners by the bookmaker, his chance of winning overall is greatly reduced. I have known many a big-hitter that has subsequently backed only short-priced horses, safe in the knowledge he will be accommodated. Now, they are in potential trouble. The reason they get on is that they are backing horses whose chances are there for all to see. They are firing into the Master Mindeds or Kauto Stars of this world. Bookmakers will soak up that sort of business all day. After all, the chance of such horses is common knowledge. Some win, some lose. Some whip round at the start, some unseat, some break legs. But not enough of them win to give the punter an advantage; and as I reiterate, without an edge, you will not win in the long run.

Being able to back what you wish to back is imperative for the professional punter. Depending on the individual concerned and the type of his business, to place his bets successfully, he has to be prepared to adjust his approach. Some very big players have a network of people who place bets for them. Bookmakers categorise punters’ business. Good customers, (that is to say habitual losers) are A Grade and their system slides down according to the win-to-lose ratio of the client. Placers of bets on behalf of others normally hold losing accounts, so bookmakers are reluctant to refuse their bets even if they know they are backing a warm horse. At first they will surmise such a bet could be a coincidence and will accept it on the assumption that even if it wins, they will get the money back. But the intelligence of bookmakers is sharp. Please note, by intelligence I am not necessarily talking about their IQ factor. No, I am referring to their ability to isolate what is happening, their MI5-type capacity if you like. Once they know you are placing bets for one of the big ten or twelve players in the business, you are tagged and reoccurrence of such business means refusal. As a result, the really big players are always on the lookout for new agents to handle part of their business, which, if mixed in with everyday stuff, has a chance of slipping under the wire.

Some of the bigger players open deposit accounts on behalf of ordinary people and run the business as if they were the individuals concerned. The bank details are all correct, cash is withdrawn and deposited at the behest of the punter and the real person, who is impersonated when the punter makes his phone calls, paid a commission. Some of the most successful and biggest players have to go to such lengths in order to place bets.

You may wonder what sort of punter is forced into taking such action. Firstly, there is the big hitter – the man betting in unquantifiable sums. His instructions can often be to ‘Get on as much as you can.’ No limit; no strings attached: £100,000, half-a-million, a million. He will accept whatever is returned. As you can imagine very few such punters exist. Even with the guarantee that such business guarantees the procurement of inside information, possibly of the highest calibre, I would dissuade involvement. Anyone dealing with this type of player is liable to sleepless nights. Being owed half a million by the King of Zongo Zongo is all very well, but should he be mauled to death by a rampant lion in his sleep, obtaining it is a different matter. Apart from the obvious drawback of getting paid (everyone dies – ever thought of how difficult it might be to persuade Mrs Zongo Zongo that you are owed the money – particularly if she ushered the lion into his bedroom?), your personal betting, if you are counting on King Zongo Zongo’s connections, will always involve you taking under the odds. By definition, your function is to ensure the king receives the best odds available. You are merely receiving the crumbs left on the table, or in this case, possibly the bones. No one, other than a close ally, blood relative, or someone you owe money to, should be granted credit. Some rules in life are incontrovertible. This I suggest is one.

So if you are successful in this business and bet in reasonable sums, just how do you get on? I shall use myself as an example because that way I shall not offend anyone and I am addressing a subject I know something about. As far as I am concerned, the fewer people privy to my business the better. But it is an unfortunate fact that the bigger the player you are, the more likely it is that you are compelled to recruit helpers. Personally, I am not big enough to resort to these tactics. And although I often use commission agents, I have a fair relationship with one firm that allows me to do business on advantageous terms because my stakes are not so big that I knock them over, and they respect my opinion. I realise some of you may accuse me of consorting with the enemy but mine is a one-off case, which, without going into detail, I can justify. Putting it bluntly, I used to work for the firm concerned. I play the game with them; in return, they play it with me. But I am under no illusion, they will do me no favours and the bigger my stake, the less likely they are to be obliging.

I have been in the business a while and built up useful contacts along the way. The same will happen to any aspiring punter who makes the grade but, as with all matters, it takes time.

I have two additional pieces of advice for those wishing to make a living backing horses. We have established it can be done but is very difficult. Unless you are Michael Tabor, in which case I suspect I lost you a long time ago; as expressed in my last piece, expenses make life hard. If an opportunity presents itself to make money from a sideline allied to your racing prowess, then take it. Most professionals do have regular incomes of some sort. It takes pressure away from those losing runs and means you have a specified amount coming in each month, even if sometimes more goes out. My situation is a perfect example. Bob Rothman (a man I have known for a long time) pays me to write up my racing notes and compile articles for this site. He underpays me of course, but because he is a  pleasure to work for, trustworthy and does not encroach on my lifestyle, I do it. As I write, it is an arrangement that suits us both admirably. In truth, I am paid to do something I enjoy and most of the input to the site is the result of work I would be doing in any case. The only downside is that I am allowing private thoughts and opinions to enter the public domain. However, such is the nature of the beast – the price those of us in search of a regular wage must pay. Many of the horses I nominate on Bush Telegraph shorten up in the market. Now, there are two reasons for this. Firstly, if I back them then I am in-part responsible. This is not because I smash horses up as my employer might do, but because those who handle my business respect my opinion and they are liable to follow me, often for higher stakes.

Secondly, most of the time what I say is correct. Therefore, because I have hit on the right horse, others are waiting in the wings to invest their cash, which will affect the betting market. If that sounds conceited, that is not my intention. I have already explained that I spend a great deal of time watching and analysing races. This work pays dividends and often means I know more than the opposition. It does not guarantee success but means most of the time I know what I am doing.

As I write, I have narrowly failed to receive a payday on Whistledownwind, a horse foolishly campaigned over an incorrect trip before going to Jeremy Noseda and inched out today over a more suitable distance. Unfortunately, the cat is out of the bag and Whistledownwind will not be available at all prices from 10/1 to 7’s next time. But it is an example of how, when you feel you know what is not obvious to all and sundry, you can mop up while those who were on their third pint as you worked are left scratching their heads.[/vc_row]

The Art of Finding Winners

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THE ART OF WINNER-FINDING II

MY CONTENTION when last tackling this subject was that it is better to use your eyes than a slide rule when trying to pluck winners from the tree of racing. As a result, I have been prompted to demonstrate what was meant, isolating some of the issues mentioned.

So I will start with one of the most intricate, perhaps vital components when trying to read a race – that is horses in general. After all, it is difficult to assess the future of an animal without forming a judgement of its physical positives and negatives. Let us start with the paddock. Appraisal of horses in the paddock is not as difficult as those that do it, and therefore wish to preserve their monopoly on a pursuit few tend to query, wish to have us believe. Start with the most obvious. If we are evaluating newcomers and maidens, look at a horse in the parade ring as if you are weighing up someone at a social gathering. Does the horse look at ease in its surroundings, is it comfortable. Has it a swagger in its walk. You often hear paddock observers say a horse is a good walker. Walking does not have too much to do with racing, but a horse that has a John Wayne-type gait is probably confident and capable of running up to its best. If it appears curled up – the equivalent of a shrinking violet at a party – is sweating and edgy, chances are it cannot wait to get back to its stables and is unlikely to show too much in a race. Its ears should be forward, possibly flicking back and forth with interest, its head held high and coat shining. It should not be carrying condition – that is weight round the tummy – whilst ideally its backend should rise from its middle with its hindquarters well-muscled. Remember that the engine of a horse is its hind legs. They are the pistons. The more built up a horse’s backend is, the greater its power. Sprinters often have backsides like butcher’s dogs or cooks. They have to be all muscle and speed, often running on one breath from stall to line.

Apart from fitness issues, these remarks do not normally apply to seasoned handicappers, some of whom, aware it is merely another day at the office, can walk round the paddock all day like old sheep. Horsey people will tell you that equines do not fully mature until reaching the age of six. That is not necessarily true of racehorses; but be prepared for them to improve physically from two to three and again when they become four. Some horses are only shells in their younger days. These are unfurnished animals, yet to fill their frames. They appear leggy and slightly gangly and are similar to the teenager in the playground whose body is sprouting in all directions waiting to take a solid shape.

The debate over paddock-watching is an ongoing one as not everyone likes the same thing. Just as some men are attracted to blondes or brunettes or women wearing glasses, some horse-watchers like big rangy types that can often be weak, ignoring at their peril athletic and compact types that, once fit, are ready to shoot from the hip.

Note how a horse goes to post. You want to see it striding out with some zest on the ground not scratching to post as if on a gravely road. But horses that pull hard are bad news. They are fighting their jockey, expending energy in the process. If they pull on the way to the start, there is every chance they will do the same in a race, in which case they are unlikely to get home.

If the ground is soft, it is unlikely to suit a horse with a low action. Fast ground it can skim over is what is required and having to handle soft ground corresponds to a human running in wellington boots. On the other hand, soft ground will suit the sort of horse with a rounded action, which is one that resembles a rocking horse, and that hits the ground hard with its forelegs. Imagine those front legs thumping down of fast ground and you get an idea of how it feels for the horse – rather like racing on hot coals. Wingwalker is an obvious example of a horse that climbs when faced with fast ground and predictably, it proved his undoing at Newmarket. There is a saying that horses will go on any ground once. That holds water to a degree but sensible trainers do not ask questions their charges have difficulty in answering. Once again, breeding will help provide a clue or two as to how a horse will handle extremes of going. There are too many stallions to list individually here but a couple of general rules apply. Sire of the moment, Galileo, produces stock that is best on firm. The same applies to Elusive Quality. Oasis Dream’s offspring, along with Pivotal’s, like some give. American-breds are invariably best on fast ground; although those like Street Cry (responsible for imposing horses) and One Cool Cat, who were proven on dirt, can produce stock that handle easy ground.

There is another saying often muttered around paddocks and in betting rings. That is, when dealing with extremes of ground that, it is the same for all. Actually, it is not! No horse wants a bog to race on. Similarly, few, if any, want to gallop on the equivalent of the M1. Some are better equipped to handle such conditions but it is never the same for all of them!

Assessing a race is the easy part. Always question form from slowly run races that have developed into a two-furlong dash. Races with the best record are run at a proper end-to-end gallop, often the case with handicaps. Handicappers are the literal workhorses of the industry and know what they are doing. They settle well, can squeeze through gaps; their experience and professionalism means they are often hard to beat when faced with winners of maidens. And because they have been around for a while, they are often streetwise enough to save something for themselves. They also carry few secrets. We know their optimum conditions and at what time of year they tend to bloom. Whether they invariably need a run and whether they have a left or right-handed preference. The last point may seem trivial but horses often have a preferred lead leg, something that can be crucial on tight tracks like Chester. If it is their off fore, a right-handed track suits them better than one that requires them to change leads. Overall, Flat horses are less likely to be as affected as those who jump fences or hurdles, who are required to be in a greater rhythm.

Some maiden winners can look impressive when showboating to a hard-held easy success. Check to see what such horses have beaten. Watching a horse cruising away from a horse rated 75 does not mean you have seen a 90-rated animal. Similarly, horses hemmed or boxed in, snatched up, or otherwise unlucky, never find what you might at first glance think they might next time. Two lengths is a lot to find. Watching unlucky horses can be deceptive. Just as horses that veer from a true line have never given away the distance you presume them to have, those that get a run via the high street can mislead. Halve the impact their apparent misfortune will have next time and you will be about right.

A top class horse has the ability to quicken in a race three times. Once to angle for a position, again to challenge or maybe inch into the lead, and one last time when confronted. But there are not too many of those; maybe I have seen twenty. Most, even Group 1 winners, have two gear changes. I would have said New Approach had two-and-a-half gears, Lush Lashes had two and that Zarkava, never fully tested, probably had three.

However, we are starting at the top. Most animals have one change of gear and it is just a question of for how long they can sustain it. Some have a short sharp burst, others can lengthen and keep up a strong gallop for a couple of furlongs. Watching the lesser end of the spectrum, it is noticeable that once let down, poor horses may try but they cannot accelerate. So they go from seeming to be travelling strongly to just plugging on at the same old pace. This is especially useful to remember if you are an in-running player. Inexperienced race-readers often label such animals as dogs but that only demonstrates they do not know what they are looking at. For this reason, it does help to know and understand the animals you are watching. The gift of speed has been bestowed on some horses, allowing a change of gear, whereas others have only one pace. Rather like people, they can only achieve what is within their capabilities.

Better horses can accelerate, some even battle back when headed. Although not a advocate of sectional timing – mainly because I feel the work involved is not commensurate with the end product – the time of a race, in comparison with those on the same day, providing the going is constant, will provide a clue as to the worth of a race. Once again though, this does depend on the way the race was run. But if a race is recorded in a slow time for no obvious reason, then it is an event to be wary of until proved otherwise. As a potential race-reader, the ability to pigeon hole races is vital. Bad or moderate races will throw up that sort of horse. Those that are visually appealing and start to produce subsequent winners are worth paying attention to. Wingwalker’s maiden at Newmarket was a notable example this year as it produced a host of mid-summer winners including Delegator, who later went on to finish fifth in the Dewhurst.

It can be just as useful to identify bad or average races. Those that do not put in the work are likely to assume that because a horse won at one of the major tracks, it was a decent performance. Even if you formed no particular view at the time, clues are always in evidence. What did said horse beat? Did the market suggest it was a strong contest with several fancied horses lining up? Alternatively, were there silly plunges on big-priced horses caused by the awareness by shrewdies that nothing was fancied and they could have a blast on a long-priced half-chancer. The betting is often a good guide, particularly in maidens. When they bet 5 or 6/1 the field, clearly there are no standout messages for the participants. Unless something streaks to an unexpected wide margin victory, as Your Old Pal did at Newbury, chances are the race contains little of substance. But always be prepared to rethink. If a week is a long time in politics, two months can be a long time in the life of a two-year-old.

Keeping a record of horses and races that have made an impression will help greatly in your future strategy. Like everything connected with this business, it requires plenty of work and to avoid burn out, you should concentrate on those aspects of the game you are best at.

Try to do it all and you will end up gibbering to yourself in some quiet corner somewhere.

THE KNACK OF WINNER-FINDING

THERE IS a story that concerns a man who owns a factory that makes components for motor cars. A vital piece of machinery malfunctions. Without it, he is unable to manufacture the pistons and valves that are the focal point of his business. So he calls in an expert, a man who mends intricate pieces of machinery for a living. When the man arrives at the factory he circles the offending piece of apparatus, looking at this, looking at that and tutting the way tradesmen do. After a few minutes, he delves into a bag of tools and produces a hammer. Then, to a hushed ensemble, he lifts the hammer high over his head, bringing it down sharply on a nut. He asks the owner to press the start button; and low and behold, the machine kick-starts into action.

Once the factory floor churns back to production, the owner calls the hammer-hitter into his office and asks how much he charges for his services.

“£1,000,’ is the reply.

‘That’s scandalous,’ retorts the owner. ‘You have only been here for five minutes. Would you care to itemise your bill.’

‘Certainly,’ says the tradesman. ‘£1 for hitting the nut: £999 for knowing which nut to hit.’

In other words, the man had a knack known only to himself. He knew how to restore the machine to working order. How he arrived at this was somewhat incidental.

Possessing a knack for anything is a precious commodity. Actors can be taught how to act, footballers how to score goals, jockeys how to ride horses. But what lifts the good from the very good; the very good from the excellent, is something that cannot be taught and that is a knack. After all the theory has been exhausted, it is the person that can operate without recourse to a manual, the one that can improvise, the one that has an in-built auto-pilot, that will be the best.

Some professional punters try to narrow winner-finding down to a fine art. They approach it as if they are architects that need a blueprint. To a degree, there are certain elementary things you need to know. Just as the actor has to look natural and listen for his cue, the punter must be conversant with his script. He needs to know that a high-numbered draw at Chester is hard to overcome as it is on the round course at Thirsk. In a sprint, it is handy to know where the pace is likely to come from so that a selection is not likely to be cast adrift in the middle of the ocean. A view needs to be formed when a selection is tackling a trip it is unproven over. If dealing with a steeplechaser, an impression of the horse’s jumping capabilities is required. Knowing a little about breeding is desirable. That will help evaluate whether a certain horse is likely to handle the ground it faces.

It is also advantageous, particularly in non-handicap events, if a punter can segregate the quality of a race he has watched. He needs to know whether it is poor, moderate, good or top class. That way, he will be able to read how dangerous future participants from such a race are likely to be. He will then know whether to overlook them with a degree of safety in favour of horses that appear to have contested better events. Sometimes finishing sixth in a good maiden is preferable to having been second in a moderate one.

Many of these points are basic but it is surprising how many times you hear so-called pundits falling into the various black holes espoused here. ‘That was a really good effort last time,’ they will often say, ‘So and so was only beaten a length at Newmarket.’ But how many winners came from that race and, more importantly, if the race was recently run and nothing has surfaced from it, what sort of a race did it look to be to the naked eye?

Now we are taking knack. Successful punters need to be good race-readers. They need to spot when a horse fails to stay; therefore, it is possible to forgive a disappointing finishing position. Similarly, they need to notice a horse staying on at the end of a race that was patently too short and make sure they pay special attention to its chances when a more suitable trip is presented.

So, let us return to the punter that takes the blueprint approach and wants to cover every angle. I know one enormously successful punter who takes this approach. Actually, I have worked for him on and off. I have read races on his behalf, helped compile sectional timing, assisted in surveys on ground analysis at various tracks but, largely, I thought most of it was piffle! I cannot argue with his results and some people like to be doubly sure before they bet. It is the belt and braces approach and if that gives them comfort then fine; but I contend if you do not know what you are looking at, then you should do something else.

I should say here that plenty of successful punters do not know what they are looking at. They employ people like me to tell them. That is a different matter. They have accepted that evaluating form and watching the confirmation of horses in the paddock and scrutinising the worth of races is not their forte. What they are good at is collating all information put before them and acting accordingly. They make successful decisions regarding betting in the same way managing directors take judgements based on expert opinion.

But unless you are in a position to employ a work force to feed you data, and then have the courage to act accordingly, we have to assume as a fledging pro-punter, you reach most decisions yourself.

Personally, I feel sectional timing is nonsense. Once you start introducing such clutter into the winner-finding process, you then have to agree an accurate going description, measure the wind direction and, Oh Lord, by the time you have worked it all out, you might as well have gone to university for five years and qualified as a lawyer. Forget that nonsense! Use your eyes!

I once told the punter I was describing; I thought Notnowcato would win the Juddmonte. ‘Couldn’t back him,’ was his reply. ‘He’s never done a decent time.’ He only won by a short head but he won and I backed him at 8/1 with the pro punter choosing to disregard the opinion he paid me to supply. I also told him to ignore news from Newmarket that Soviet Song had been working badly prior to her win at Ascot, as four-year-old fillies can often doss at home. This is something I know because I understand, in part anyway, how racehorses function.

He did not. If it was not there in some wad of paper, then it was not worth bringing to the table. Of course, on plenty of occasions, he was right and I was wrong, but the point I am trying to make is that not everything can be quantified. Some things have to be the result of intuition and often they are the best decisions we make in life.

Think back to all the good and difficult decisions you have made: perhaps regarding buying or selling a house or a car. There is no way under these circumstances you can cover every eventuality. Ultimately, some thought process has to kick in and you make a decision often based on scant information. But it is information you trust allied to a general feeling. If buying a house, you like the fact that the neighbouring houses all have well-tendered gardens, that there is not a rusting fridge stuck out on someone’s back yard and three doors down there is not the sight of a car jacked-up on bricks. These are positives but do not ensure the house you are contemplating buying does not have dry rot, is not haunted, infested with rats or that that well slanted lawn is not about to succumb to subsidence. However, they are clues.

I started with a story and will end with one. It just happens to be true and as a tale is nothing more than an example of Lawrence Olivier’s inflated ego. When Dustin Hoffman [a very fine actor] worked with the great man on Marathon Man, he needed to appear out of breath for one scene. Hoffman set about running up several flights of stairs prior to the take, eventually bursting in on the set gasping. After the scene, Olivier asked Hoffman why he had put himself through such a vigorous rigmarole. ‘So I was genuinely out of breath,’ Hoffman replied.

‘Why don’t you try acting dear boy,’ replied Olivier. As I have said, I can imagine him saying such a thing in that supercilious way the British cultivate when they feel they are superior. But the point is well made; it just would have been more dignified had Larry kept it to himself!

Bugger the times! If you think Notnowcato can beat Dylan Thomas over ten furlongs and on ground that is ideal for him, back him! Don’t wait for some boffin with a slide rule to confirm what you suspect may be right.

Try to winkle out a knack, be it for racing or for hitting the right nut with a hammer. The man with the knack will always sit down to eat at night. And who knows, in the coming winter months that could just be important.

Horse Racing Tips, Information or the Formbook?

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THE RUSSIANS ARE COMING…

INFORMATION is regarded as the Holy Grail. Ask any punter what he would prefer. The formbook or information – and he will invariably say information.

Ask any professional punter and he will say the formbook. Both have their merits and in a balanced attempt to back winners, both are essential tools of the trade. But whereas it is possible to bob along without information, it is difficult without reference to the formbook. The reason is simple although many of you will have difficulty accepting it.

So let me put it this way. If I claimed to have seen a UFO and that I could provide a picture to prove it and that William Hill were offering 100/1 about such an occurrence, would you be tempted? Hopefully not. The reason for this is that past records suggest that I am incorrect. I may not be mad or deluded. But I am almost certainly wrong. What I saw was likely to have been an air balloon, an aircraft of some kind, a shooting star, or even a trick of the light: in other words, the formbook points to me being wide of the mark.

But if you were a Buddhist monk or someone who had spent a lifetime in an Amazon jungle, you may be inclined to believe what I say could be true. That is because without the aid of a chronicle charting countless false sightings in the past, my argument and my photo seems plausible.

Horseracing information can be similarly misleading. Conveyed with the best of intentions, it often originates from a source that may have interpreted what it has seen incorrectly. Now if the formbook can back up what is being said, that is a different matter. But, in the case of unraced horses or those with little or no form, you are relinquishing your judgement to someone else.

There was a time when information was eagerly awaited. The phone call the night before informing you that a certain Newmarket yard was about to unleash a flying machine the next day. Yippee! You sleep fitfully, planning next day’s betting plans. You spend the money in advance: a holiday, a new car, a weekend in Amsterdam minus the missus. You are up as it is turning light, you are at the newspaper shop as the shutters rattle and there it is, priced in the betting forecast at 6/1. Even allowing for a few other people being in on the coup, it would still open up on course at 10/3 at worse.

Nowadays you switch on the internet or open the paper with numbed resignation. The Newmarket correspondent naps it. Everyone seems to know what you know and its forecast price is 11/10, meaning after the first chunky bet it will be a universal 4/5 chance.  Whether it wins or loses is now irrelevant. Back horses like this on a regular basis, however good they are reputed to be, and you will lose in the long run.

But suppose you spot a horse in a handicap that is exposed but is back on a mark lower than it has won off, has reasonable recent form suggesting it has not regressed, has its ground, its trip and wins at this time of year. It is lightly tipped and is 6/1 in the betting forecast. To top it all a good jockey has gone out of his way to take the ride. Now this is an interesting prospect. If you have the opportunity to ask the question, all you really need to know is if the horse is well enough to do himself justice. Time and time again so called informants let horses like this run loose. But ask them whether the animal in question is all right, okay, or in form and they will reply, ‘Yes, of course, he is going there to win if he can.’

‘Well he can,’ you reply; ‘what’s more I think he will.’

‘I wouldn’t put you off backing him,’ is the response.

You have been handed a free bet!

Maybe the horse wins, maybe he loses. But I know which of the two outlined bets I would rather be on: a horse that is close to even money, possibly odds-on, that I don’t know the colour of, or one I have worked out that only needs to run to form to win or finish second and is 6/1.

You may have noticed the title of this piece refers to our friends the Russians. During the cold war, the KGB were past masters at the game of espionage. They had little else to spend their money on, so invested millions on potential informants and contacts in the knowledge that many would be next to useless. They would cultivate sympathisers, or fellow travellers as they were then known, in the belief that one day, one of them could provide a scrap of information so vital, so beneficial to Mother Russia, that it could alter the course of history.

Whilst waiting for such critical and influential news, they would keep everyone on the payroll happy. They would give them tickets to the Russian ballet when it was in London; send occasional cases of vodka to their doors; take them to dinner at fancy restaurants and make them believe that the information they were supplying was of utmost importance.

Bear with me here as I am coming to the point, and like all good points it needs setting up. Let us say that the KGB recruited a lady – let’s call her Gladys – in charge of rations for aircrew at RAF Brize Norton, the place military aircraft take-off from. Year after year, Gladys has been given tickets to see the Bolshoi Ballet and has been made to feel important by her other employers, despite the fact she has never been able to tell them anything more salient than whether aircrew prefer chutney or Piccalilli on their sandwiches. Now, on the eve of a confrontation between East and West, she suddenly contacts her controller, stating that instead of supplying the usual rations this Friday, she has to make arrangements for fifty-times that amount. From a simple, almost innocuous piece of information, Russia is able to deduce that there is to be a major military move on that day. Gladys has paid them back a thousand times over and her information could alter the course of a significant showdown.

That is what I term the KGB factor. The sleepers who one cultivates to relay the bleedin’ obvious in anticipation of the day when they will impart something that makes all the difference between a winning and losing year.

To keep such people on board can be expensive: being told what you already know, or have no interest in knowing, can be frustrating – particularly if it costs you money. Gone are the days when information was reserved for the privileged few. Now, it is only a newspaper away.

To keep such people financially happy is often not cost effective. Only the biggest players can afford to maintain such a situation. But used in conjunction with the formbook, information can tip the balance between profit and loss. It is a pendulum that can tilt in either direction and one that requires fine-tuning.

In our next article on this subject, we will discuss how you go about making sure you are adequately informed.

Laying Horses

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Laying Horses …

PSST! DO YOU WANT TO know a good thing today? I have a cert, a sure thing; this cannot get beat! There is of course a drawback: it is only 1/3!

Faced with such an offer the chances are your enthusiasm is tempered. How many punters actually set their stall to make a large profit at such short odds? Not many I would suggest. So why should Betfair punters be prepared to lay horses at 3/1 – or in some cases at even bigger odds? Bearing in mind that everything becomes reversed when you become the layer, opposing a 3/1 chance is the equivalent of backing at 1/3. If you would not back a horse at those odds, why lay it?

Forget what you know or think you know about the horse, football team or boxer in question, backing at those odds means you have reduced your margin for error to such a level that you cannot show a profit in the long run. You need to be correct 75% of the time just to break even. Nobody is right 75% of the time about anything! The best you can expect to achieve is to be right 50% of the time and that is an ambitious target. Consequently, those thinking of laying horses are advised to concentrate on short-priced horses they consider to be flawed. Laying a horse at 1/3 means that it is 3/1 against you being right but, instead of having to be right 75% of the time, now you only need to be right 25% of the time to break even. On the occasions you collect, because the amount you win is three times the amount you risked, you can afford to be more adventurous with your liability.

Okay, there are not many 1/3 chances that we can confidently lay. Most of them appear to have outstanding chances hence the price, and most face inferior or poor opposition. So as a layer you have little in your favour and, at least on paper, are faced with a horse who only has to go down and come back. The other problem with taking chances with long odds-on shots is that, because you will find yourself on the wrong side of the transaction most of the time, there is little opportunity to recover losses as 1/3 chances that you feel are opposable are thin on the ground.

Laying horses is surprisingly tricky. Personally, if I think I have earmarked a wobbly favourite, I am more likely to try and spot the value against it – in other words – if possible find the winner.

But there is a school of thought that says if you lay a market-leader, you have the rest of the field running for you, meaning there is a strong chance something will emerge from the pack to foil the favourite. That is the bookmaker argument: that something will save their bacon but they do not know what that might be. That line of argument is too vague, too haphazard for my tastes. I need to have reasons to oppose the favourite and a couple of rivals in the field that I feel are capable of so doing.

Herewith, are a couple of areas we touched on in previous articles. Remember, just because a horse you do not particularly fancy is overpriced it is not a bet; conversely, do not fall into the trap of thinking that a horse you think will win is too short and therefore becomes a lay. Such thinking means you are bookmaker-driven. You are allowing them to decide your mindset and the object at all times is that you are in charge of your thought processes. There are occasions when the price is too low for your taste. That means you do not back it – simple as that.

To go back to the lay situation, I do have a train of thought that will horrify some and doubtless prompt objections a-plenty. I have often laid one horse and backed another in the same race. On the face of it, that seems a recipe for disaster. You are running the risk of losing twice. If the horse you have laid wins, you lose and of course forfeit your stake on the horse you have backed to boot. It is not for everyone but is not as daft as it sounds. If you are going to lay a horse at around 9/4, chances are you are not going to win much if it loses because its price means, as already stated, you are betting at odds-on. You are risking £90 for every £40 gained. You can turn that round by backing the horse you think has a strong chance of beating it at, say, odds of 6/1. Because you have already money in the bank on the assumption the favourite will lose, you do not need to lay out much on the horse you fancy. Should it win, as well as having run the risk of losing twice, you now win twice. This is not necessarily a recommended course of action on a regular basis but, like everything in this business, a flexible approach can pay dividends on occasion.

There are also times when to all intense and purposes there are only two possible winners of a race. Laying one of them is tantamount to backing the other. Yes, I know you have the rags running for you but, once again, by relying on them, you are playing the Zero on the roulette wheel – something that only obliges once in every thirty-seven spins. My own take on laying, unless I am handed an opportunity to lay a short one that I am convinced is not going to win and I am forcing the backer to bet odds-on, is to lay as part of an overall package or strategy. Identifying races that have a punter-friendly look to them can be as important as finding winners. You may be one of the best form students in the business, but you are going to need the gods to dish up a dollop of good fortune to collect in the Hunt Cup or the Ayr Gold Cup.

There is nothing more satisfying or confidence boosting than knowing before a race that you have read it correctly. That when you have identified only two runners and have taken 6/1 about yours, you are confident you only have one to beat. It may be a close-run thing and you may lose out to the one that was your biggest danger but, in running, as one horse after another drops by the wayside, you can be sure that sooner or later, your selection will be launching its challenge. Such confidence cannot be achieved on every race, or even on every day. But when it can, I submit that is the time to count your chips and place them on the green baize.

Personality has a great bearing on your success or lack of it and there is no perfect beast to build here. Take advice from those that have made this business pay and work round those aspects of their success that suit your style best. Do not put yourself under pressure to work to someone else’s methods if they do not suit you.

However, I am of the opinion that the more effective you are at sifting through the formbook and information received, the less bets you will need to strike. Scatter betting is for those who are playing percentages and nothing more. It is for accountants!

If you can identify winners and races where you can make the wheel spin in your favour, then it cuts out a lot of chagrin, a lot of unnecessary heartache and reduces the game of betting to something you are conducting on your terms.

Betting Exchanges

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bigstockphoto_Computer_Earnings__1559353_241x349What Are Betting Exchanges all about?

This blog is the result of an email from RE of Littleborough. He asked me to expand on ‘Betting Exchanges’…

Traditionally, betting on the horses has been done on course – a transaction between punter and bookmaker – or with registered bookies. In the old days, before mobiles or the internet, it was still possible to place bets remotely, using illegal ‘bookies runners’ – taking bets scribbled on the back of fag packets and running to the officially registered bookie.

Now there’s a wealth of different approaches, including on-line betting.

Betting Exchanges, though, are something else. They’re an on-line service where people can bet against each other, rather than against a bookie. Some will ‘back’ a horse to win, others will ‘lay’ a horse to lose.[/vc_column_text]

What are the advantages?

  • The ease of placing bets on-line
  • First, it offers more opportunities to win (backing a horse to lose)
  • Increased eanings. It cuts out the bookie, who typically takes 20%, so returns can be higher
  • Wins/losses are reported immediately. This is real-time gambling
  • The fun of ‘being a bookie’, betting against different online punters. In fact Bookmakers use the exchanges to cover their own risks.
  • By backing at one price and laying the same horse at another, it is possible to virtually guarantee a return. This is known as Arbitrage.
  • Better odds. Online punters have the option of not taking initial offers on their bets, asking for better odds.
  • Not being banned. Bookmakers often effectively ban a punter who keeps winning (don’t I know it!). This doesn’t apply to exchanges.

What are the disadvantages?

You are really entering the world of professional gambling, so novice beware. My advice? Use the HorseracingPro Arbitrage service and get the best of all worlds – a high degree of safety, with the possibility of ‘locked in’ profits, all with an insider’s knowledge.

Remember, successful betting is all about understanding both the odds and using ‘value’ as the guiding principle.

Rule 4

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Tattersals Rule 4 (or technically Rule 4c)

Bookmakers offer prices on each participant in a race (or sporting event) but reserve the right to make a deduction from the winnings if one of the perticpants is withdrawn so close to the start of a race that they haven’t had time to “reform” the market ie offer shorter odds on the remaining participants.

The official wording of Rule4 is something as follows

In the event of a late withdrawal of of a horse from a race before it comes under coming under starters orders, or the horse is officially deemed not to have taken part in a race by the starter, then this horse is treated as a non-runner. As such any bets on this horse will be refunded and any winning bets in the race will be subject to a deduction in line with Tattersalls’ Rule 4c.

Tattersalls’ (the official bookmakers rules guidlines) sets out a scale which they deem to be fair to both bookmaker and punter. Most punters believe Rule4 to be unfair but in fact I will show you below how Rule4 is actually in the punters favour … and how you can use it to give your bookmaker a caning!

This is  the standard rate of deductions  set out in Rule 4 which is used by virtually every bookmaker in the country

Price at time of withdrawal

1/9

2/11

1/4

3/10

2/5

8/15

8/13

4/5

20/21

Evens

5/4

13/8

15/8

5/2

10/3

9/2

6/1

10/1

Amount deducted from winnings

Or

to

to

to

to

to

to

to

to

to

to

to

to

to

to

to

to

to

Shorter

2/17

1/5

2/7

1/3

4/9

4/7

4/6

5/6

6/5

6/4

7/4

9/4

3/1

4/1

11/2

9/1

14/1

90p in the £

85p in the £

80p in the £

75p in the £

70p in the £

65p in the £

60p in the £

55p in the £

50p in the £

45p in the £

40p in the £

35p in the £

30p in the £

25p in the £

20p in the £

15p in the £

10p in the £

5p in the £

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Fun Quiz

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“Winning money … week after week …
it’s the most exciting way I’ve ever made a living!” 

Dear John

Congratulate yourself John!… why? … because clearly you’re someone who takes action. You, like me, enjoy having the opportunity to make money … now you have an opportunity to win £1,000’s … just like I did years ago … before the bookmakers closed my accounts and started refusing my bets because I was winning too much!

Welcome aboard! I hope we enjoy a long and profitable and enjoyable association. You can be sure I will be working my butt off to share winners with you!

Racing can be Fun and Profitable!

Racing is the best “business” I’ve ever known. The most fun, profitable and stimulating “work” you could ever enjoy. It can give you tons of free time as well as tons of money. It can give you immense satisfaction so you go to “work” with a smile on your face full of excitement “will it be a BIG one today!!?” … the question I wake up to every day.

Why is betting on horses such a
“High Potential” Business?

I don’t know any other business where one minute you can be scratching around worrying about paying your bills and then BAM! You have a great bet on a 10/1 winner and all of a sudden you’ve got so much cash in your wallet you want to throw a party, book a holiday, buy a new car or just pay off all your credit card bills! It’s an amazing feeling!

It’s happened to me on more than one occasion … it stuns and amazes my friends! One minute they’re feeling sorry for me and just a tiny bit “superior” because of their nice steady job and regular (but barely-enough-to-survive) income! The next minute they’re as jealous as hell!

The Best Business I’ve known for over 30 years!

Before I started betting horses I’d tried making money in a variety of businesses. None came close to racing! They can’t hold a candle to it! Get this business right and you will never “work” again!

Here’s the businesses I tried before I discovered this Gold Mine! … My first business in the 70’s sold telephone answering machines from America years before they were available in the UK (light years before mobile phones!) Then I branched out and set up a computer sales company, a software business, a computer maintenance operation, two different magazine, a discount card club and a marketing company. All were a lot of hard work but still great fun … but none compared in any way to betting for a living!

Like to know the difference between these businesses and racing? … in those businesses I was always struggling with cash flow! Meeting payroll every month was a big worry! Paying bills was a disaster! … not because we weren’t successful … it was because we were rapidly expanding!

At one stage we were expanding so fast I was hiring a couple of engineers and a salesman every month! … but it was killing my cash flow because it meant I had to buy three more new cars every month!! … yes they were on “hire-purchase” or leases but it was still hard to find the deposits!

Do banks love businesses that expand like the clappers? Well if you were like me and needed to borrow money to finance the expansion? Forget it! I had to to sell my house to fund the last business. I was fed up of working 12 hours a day making everyone else money and going into debt myself! (I didn’t draw a salary from my marketing company for over a year and re-mortgaged my house to pay wages!) … so I packed it all in to make money betting instead!

How I got started …

Did things improve the day I started betting horses?

It got worse! I lost £35,000 in 6 months … not bad when you’d only started with £15,000! … my friends thought I was nuts and I was wondering if they might be right?

But like anything you do over and over again you get better. I was still losing … but after a while I lost less! Finally after 6 months I started winning!!! 9 months later I’d won all my losses back and was back up to “Zero”! I felt great! From then on it’s well known history. I won and won and kicked the greedy bookmakers into touch!

When I won too much they banned me …

One by one they closed my accounts and banned me …

“We hate having to pay you out week after week, after week, after week … your final cheque in the sum of £21,153,75 duly enclosed” -City Index.

“Your account was closed with us because you had become a luxury we could not afford” – Bob Menzies

One firm didn’t ban me but would only let me have a tiny bet to find out what I was doing … then one day they refused me 50P yes 50 pence! on a horse at a price!! I was furious and never had a proper bet with them again (until I recently discovered an ingenious way of outwitting their internet division!) You may know that firm … Ladbrokes!! Maybe they couldn’t afford the risk, ha ha! After all they only own 2,000 betting shops!! Bookies are gutless!

Now it’s your turn to win!

First let me make it quite clear there are no guarantees. I imagine when you win it’ll seem so easy. But equally there will be (many) times when you think B***** H***! I’m sure you, like me, like to win. But I’m notscared of losing. Losing is part of winning in racing. It would be dead easy if they all won. But 30-40% winners can provide a fantastic lifestyle.

This new business could mean a new way of life for you … open up possibilities of winning more money than you could ever earn slogging away long hard hours at unrewarding work … but it’s not always easy … the best things in life never are, wouldn’t you agree?

… and you can count on one thing … when you find something that could make a difference … something that could be a bit special … a lot of people will “crib” about it … they’ll never agree with you … after all in the words of one philosopher …” if you do what everyone else does … you’ll get what everyone else has … usually not a lot!”

You’re a Pioneer!

To win you have to dare to be different!

Let me ask you a question? … How do you make a lot of money in say the stock market? The real question is of course “How do you buy a share that will go up in value?”

Is it by waiting to see what everyone is buying? … waiting and waiting until everyone you speak to agrees it’s a good buy … because they’ve already bought at a lower price? … then buying when you’re the last one in?

NO WAY! To make real money you need to be among the first in! By the time everyone else thinks it’s a good idea … the first one’s in are already taking their profits and selling!

Just the same for this opportunity. Betting on horses has become “respectable”! It’s the new “Stock market”! What a great time to be in it! The Government “donated” £492,000,000 a year to horse racing investors by abolishing betting tax. A flood of smart people eager to make money from this new opportunity have flocked into racing and are winning £1,000’s! And now you too can get your share of this great opportunity.

You’re a Winner!

You’re a winner already! Why? … because you took action. Taking action is what differentiates winners from losers. Most people need to wait for others approval before they can take action themselves. You’ve shown you’ve got what it takes. Obviously taking action by itself doesn’t guarantee success. But you can’t succeed without taking action first.

You took action and joined me. I appreciate that. It takes guts to do something different … and something as outrageous as winning tax free money betting on horses! Most people don’t believe it can be done because they’ve never seen anyone do it!

Maybe you’ve never invested on horses before. Maybe you have, but didn’t win as much as you’d have liked. Maybe you’re already a “pro”. Whatever your circumstances I guess you joined me because I’ve proved I can win a lot of money from the bookmakers … and you’d like to win too … how? … by investing on racehorses our contacts tell us can win.

How Much Can I Win?

How much can you win? … the sky’s the limit! You can win fortunes … in fact I won so much the cowardly bookmakers closed my accounts and refused to take my bets anymore. Now I don’t want to pretend it’s easy. Sometimes it is … when the horses are winning! But they don’t win all the time. It’s a business of ups and downs.

Let me share some of my own experiences with you … when I started investing on horses I expected to win a fortune right away. Luckily it wasn’t that easy. “Luckily?” I hear you ask in amazement “Surely it’s better to win straight away?” Well in one way of course you’re right! It’s great winning! … but look at it this way. If you win straight away it seems too easy. So you don’t prepare for the hard times. But if you lose initially … well you already know it can be tough so you’re better prepared when things don’t go as well as you expect.

My Learning Curve was Expensive!
Now You can benefit from it …

I lost for 6 straight months! I know that seems unbelievable. So did my friends! They used to say “Bob, you’re crazy. When are you going to give it up?”

Luckily I don’t give up easily … and all the time I was learning. I was getting better and better at judging the horses, the markets and the size of my bets. I did tons of research … and I kept making new contacts with “spies” … shrewd horseracing folk who could supply me with valuable information.

After 6 months I’d lost £35,000! Impressive when you only start with £15,000! But we were in the middle of the last property boom and I had no dependents so I’d re-mortgaged my house for £50,000 (I do NOT recommend you do this!)

In Three Months I won it all back!
£35,000.00!

At the end of 6 months I started winning. In 3 short months I’d won back the £35,000 so was now “level”

And then I started winning … and boy did I win! I took £1,000’s and £1,000’s off the bookies for connections and myself. I specialised as the “guy who could get the money on” and racing professionals flocked to my door.

In the next year I took over £400,000 off the bookies on behalf of connections and myself! The bookies were not happy. One by one they closed the door in my face, closed my accounts and refused my bets.

£400,000.00 in a year!
£8,000.00 a week!

One word of warning! In the year I won £400,000 … I had two losing months! That’s right TWO losing months! Imagine if you’d looked over my shoulder with the intention of making money by copying my bets during one of those months … you’d have thought “No way!” … and you’d have missed out on the chance to win £1,000 a day!

I share this with you because there’ll be times when it seems like we couldn’t pick a winner using tomorrow’s newspaper! There’s been plenty of times I felt like giving racing up altogether!

Bet a 25/1 Winner and
you’ll celebrate for a week!

Of course there’ll be other times when we have so many winners … or winners at such fantastic prices … you’ll wonder why you never did this before. As an example just imagine how you’d have felt if you’d bet one of the horses we did … Grey Kingdom in the Ayr Silver Cup … it won at 25/1! That’s £1,000 for every £40 invested!

One client wrote … “I had £100 each way and won £3,225.00!” another said “When Grey Kingdom went past the line first I was shouting so much the neighbours came round to see what all the noise was about. Thanks Bob” 

You have to take the rough with the smooth. I know you can do this because you wouldn’t have joined me unless you were an optimist. But it’s still good to be prepared.

How many winning opportunities each month?

You’ll have around 8-12 opportunities to win each month. You’ll only participate when it suits you. I’ll text, write or email you at times to remind you when we have a suitable opportunity if you haven’t called for a while, or sometimes remind you on the phone. These advices will be for horses strongly fancied to win and carrying professional money.
How do I place my bets?

The best way to stay “under the radar” is to nip down to your local betting shop and place your bets in cash … whatever you like for yourself, and £50 for connections … and then … collect any winnings whenever we have a successful investment!

There’s something magical about collecting a wad of cash and stuffing it in your wallet so it nearly bursts! I love it! It’s a great feeling and always brings a smile to my face.

FREE Bets!
Get yourself a few £100’s FREE Now!

Having said the above there is a more convenient way to place bets now and that’s by the internet. But you have to be careful and only deal with bookmakers you’ve checked out and can trust.

To save you time I’ve checked out a number of these. Over the years I’ve had a lot of experience with bookmakers and I’ve had accounts with these and they’ve paid me when I won! I’ve also put friends into them who’ve had accounts and got paid too so I know they’re reliable.

What more several of them are offering very generous FREE bets when you open an account. I’ve listed the best of them on my website below.

Be quick if you do want to pick up some free money! Some of these offers won’t last long because it’s been costing the bookies a lot of money when in-the-know entrepreneurial types like yourself have used my techniques to make it Win-Win for yourself!

… So if you want to get started right away you could go to my website now

www.HorseRacingPro.co.uk

Click on the “FREE Bets” tab on the website and grab yourself one or two of the offers (I’d start with the £200.00 from “Bet365”, £150.00 from Stan James and £50.00 from Betfred) … and to help you win money risk free I’ve written a report entitled

“How to Cash in on Free Bets from online bookies”

There’s a section in it where I explain how you could win £1,000 risk free using the bookies money! … or guarantee yourself a profit whether the horse wins or loses!!

I used to retail this for £50 but if you’d like a free copy (yes FREE, Complimentary, Gratis!) just let my office know and we’ll email or post you a copy … but the first step is to open those accounts so you lock in the free offer now! You don’t need any money to open the accounts by the way. Leave that till later if you want.

How do I reward connections for winners?


Here’s how my clients reward connections … they send the odds to a £50 bet for each advice … but only if it wins!!! Just send me the winnings from a £50 bet each time you get a winner … and of course you’ll be enjoying your own winning bet so you’ll be winning too. And as the bookie pays the winnings, winners don’t cost you a penny!!
As an example suppose the horse wins at 3/1. £50 at 3/1 wins £150 so you just send me the £150 winnings … NB!! Keep your stake for next time! … and if you’d invested say £200 for yourself … you’d win £600 too!
Quality Information!
… so we win together


I know how good this information is. I could have asked you to send £50, £100 or more in advance for each advice, win or lose. Some tipsters ask for £1,000! … I don’t! … I want to gamble on the win with you! … and so do our connections! … that’s why I prefer you place this £50 on the horse together with your own bet… why? … the reason’s simple! …

First I know a good proportion of these horses will win! That’s why I’m advising them to you in the first place! Secondly I cannot get big bets on myself anymore. Let me tell you about another horse we bet as an example.
The owner had waited more than 6 months for it to win. So he’d spent over £6,000 on training (£1,000 a month to keep a racehorse). He’d agreed to tell me when the horse was ready to win in exchange for me placing a free bet of £1,000 on it for him as a contribution towards his costs.
Nowadays I can’t get that size bet on so I shared it with 20 clients who each placed £50. They were just as much “in the know” for their £50 as the owner was who’d spent £6,000. Now that’s good value isn’t it!?
It’s hard for me to get a bet of more than £200 or £300 on without causing alarm bells to ring. So I share this information with a small group of people, say 20 for example, and they each put £50 on. That covers the “present” for the connections and I can still win with my own bet.
Most importantly we all win together. When you win, I win. I don’t believe in charging for losing information without any risk like so many other racing advisory services do (is that why they have to advertise every day?). That’s why I only expect you to send me money when we win! That way you can be confident I will be only give you horses I think will win. But they won’t all win and I wouldn’t want you to get the wrong impression.
These horses are strongly fancied and are all expected to win by their connections. But experience shows they only win about half the time at best. So take a long term view and don’t put all your money on one horse! I reckon our long term strike rate is around 30-40%. So bet accordingly … and never bet money you can’t afford to lose! These are good bets but not certainties! A sensible policy might be to restrict your bets to 10% of your available betting bank at any one time.
Winners are “FREE”!

When the horse wins the bookie pays your winnings and returns your stake. So you get your own stake back as well as the £50 you invested for connections. So the winner hasn’t cost you a penny piece. It’s the bookie who’s paid everyone out!

You’re in profit from your winnings and connections have recouped some expenses from the £50 you placed for them in exchange for the inside information.


How do I send the winnings?

Simply send cash, cheque or postal order or make a Bank Transfer. Best to send the same day if you can. So we can settle with connections quickly … they often let slip details about the next juicy horse when we’re delivering their winnings so I like to send it to them ASAP!

Do I use a betting shop,
telephone or internet account?

Up to you. Use betting shops if you love the feeling of winning in cash and want to stay “anonymous” or under the radar. Internet or telephone betting is more convenient and if you’re using a free bet offer from a reputable internet bookmaker then it’s a lot more profitable too!

The reason why using betting shops keeps you under the radar and protects the odds for longer is if you use a telephone or internet account you are plugged directly into the “Trading Room” – the bookmaker’s nerve centre!
Here they can see immediately if a horse is being bet heavily because they’ll be getting phone calls for the same horse from different parts of the country. I have known them put you on hold and wait a minute or two while they send money to the track to reduce the odds before offering you the smaller price! … very annoying! 

Celebrate Your Wins! 

Finally I’d just like to say “Welcome” once again. This business is the best in the world when you’re betting winners!

The money flows in effortlessly! On the other hand it’s not much fun when you have the inevitable losers. So make sure you celebrate when you have a good win, it helps carry you through any bad spells!

I hope this letter has explained any queries you might have had … I’ve tried to cover all the points of the basis of our relationship.

Win or lose you can rest assured I’ll be doing my best to supply you with sound Professional Information from our contacts. Like you I’m sure, I look forward to a long and mutually profitable association.

Warm regards

Bob Rothman

Stacking the odds in Your Favour

PS The next bet is on Saturday 9th June (weather permitting). You can call the office around 11.30ish on 01932 869400 or I’ll text you the details and you can just reply with the codeword.

“Winning money … week after week …
it’s the most exciting way I’ve ever made a living!” 

Dear John

Congratulate yourself John!… why? … because clearly you’re someone who takes action. You, like me, enjoy having the opportunity to make money … now you have an opportunity to win £1,000’s … just like I did years ago … before the bookmakers closed my accounts and started refusing my bets because I was winning too much!

Welcome aboard! I hope we enjoy a long and profitable and enjoyable association. You can be sure I will be working my butt off to share winners with you!

Racing can be Fun and Profitable!

Racing is the best “business” I’ve ever known. The most fun, profitable and stimulating “work” you could ever enjoy. It can give you tons of free time as well as tons of money. It can give you immense satisfaction so you go to “work” with a smile on your face full of excitement “will it be a BIG one today!!?” … the question I wake up to every day.

Why is betting on horses such a
“High Potential” Business?

I don’t know any other business where one minute you can be scratching around worrying about paying your bills and then BAM! You have a great bet on a 10/1 winner and all of a sudden you’ve got so much cash in your wallet you want to throw a party, book a holiday, buy a new car or just pay off all your credit card bills! It’s an amazing feeling!

It’s happened to me on more than one occasion … it stuns and amazes my friends! One minute they’re feeling sorry for me and just a tiny bit “superior” because of their nice steady job and regular (but barely-enough-to-survive) income! The next minute they’re as jealous as hell!

The Best Business I’ve known for over 30 years!

Before I started betting horses I’d tried making money in a variety of businesses. None came close to racing! They can’t hold a candle to it! Get this business right and you will never “work” again!

Here’s the businesses I tried before I discovered this Gold Mine! … My first business in the 70’s sold telephone answering machines from America years before they were available in the UK (light years before mobile phones!) Then I branched out and set up a computer sales company, a software business, a computer maintenance operation, two different magazine, a discount card club and a marketing company. All were a lot of hard work but still great fun … but none compared in any way to betting for a living!

Like to know the difference between these businesses and racing? … in those businesses I was always struggling with cash flow! Meeting payroll every month was a big worry! Paying bills was a disaster! … not because we weren’t successful … it was because we were rapidly expanding!

At one stage we were expanding so fast I was hiring a couple of engineers and a salesman every month! … but it was killing my cash flow because it meant I had to buy three more new cars every month!! … yes they were on “hire-purchase” or leases but it was still hard to find the deposits!

Do banks love businesses that expand like the clappers? Well if you were like me and needed to borrow money to finance the expansion? Forget it! I had to to sell my house to fund the last business. I was fed up of working 12 hours a day making everyone else money and going into debt myself! (I didn’t draw a salary from my marketing company for over a year and re-mortgaged my house to pay wages!) … so I packed it all in to make money betting instead!

How I got started …

Did things improve the day I started betting horses?

It got worse! I lost £35,000 in 6 months … not bad when you’d only started with £15,000! … my friends thought I was nuts and I was wondering if they might be right?

But like anything you do over and over again you get better. I was still losing … but after a while I lost less! Finally after 6 months I started winning!!! 9 months later I’d won all my losses back and was back up to “Zero”! I felt great! From then on it’s well known history. I won and won and kicked the greedy bookmakers into touch!

When I won too much they banned me …

One by one they closed my accounts and banned me …

“We hate having to pay you out week after week, after week, after week … your final cheque in the sum of £21,153,75 duly enclosed” -City Index.

“Your account was closed with us because you had become a luxury we could not afford” – Bob Menzies

One firm didn’t ban me but would only let me have a tiny bet to find out what I was doing … then one day they refused me 50P yes 50 pence! on a horse at a price!! I was furious and never had a proper bet with them again (until I recently discovered an ingenious way of outwitting their internet division!) You may know that firm … Ladbrokes!! Maybe they couldn’t afford the risk, ha ha! After all they only own 2,000 betting shops!! Bookies are gutless!

Now it’s your turn to win!

First let me make it quite clear there are no guarantees. I imagine when you win it’ll seem so easy. But equally there will be (many) times when you think B***** H***! I’m sure you, like me, like to win. But I’m notscared of losing. Losing is part of winning in racing. It would be dead easy if they all won. But 30-40% winners can provide a fantastic lifestyle.

This new business could mean a new way of life for you … open up possibilities of winning more money than you could ever earn slogging away long hard hours at unrewarding work … but it’s not always easy … the best things in life never are, wouldn’t you agree?

… and you can count on one thing … when you find something that could make a difference … something that could be a bit special … a lot of people will “crib” about it … they’ll never agree with you … after all in the words of one philosopher …” if you do what everyone else does … you’ll get what everyone else has … usually not a lot!”

You’re a Pioneer!

To win you have to dare to be different!

Let me ask you a question? … How do you make a lot of money in say the stock market? The real question is of course “How do you buy a share that will go up in value?”

Is it by waiting to see what everyone is buying? … waiting and waiting until everyone you speak to agrees it’s a good buy … because they’ve already bought at a lower price? … then buying when you’re the last one in?

NO WAY! To make real money you need to be among the first in! By the time everyone else thinks it’s a good idea … the first one’s in are already taking their profits and selling!

Just the same for this opportunity. Betting on horses has become “respectable”! It’s the new “Stock market”! What a great time to be in it! The Government “donated” £492,000,000 a year to horse racing investors by abolishing betting tax. A flood of smart people eager to make money from this new opportunity have flocked into racing and are winning £1,000’s! And now you too can get your share of this great opportunity.

You’re a Winner!

You’re a winner already! Why? … because you took action. Taking action is what differentiates winners from losers. Most people need to wait for others approval before they can take action themselves. You’ve shown you’ve got what it takes. Obviously taking action by itself doesn’t guarantee success. But you can’t succeed without taking action first.

You took action and joined me. I appreciate that. It takes guts to do something different … and something as outrageous as winning tax free money betting on horses! Most people don’t believe it can be done because they’ve never seen anyone do it!

Maybe you’ve never invested on horses before. Maybe you have, but didn’t win as much as you’d have liked. Maybe you’re already a “pro”. Whatever your circumstances I guess you joined me because I’ve proved I can win a lot of money from the bookmakers … and you’d like to win too … how? … by investing on racehorses our contacts tell us can win.

How Much Can I Win?

How much can you win? … the sky’s the limit! You can win fortunes … in fact I won so much the cowardly bookmakers closed my accounts and refused to take my bets anymore. Now I don’t want to pretend it’s easy. Sometimes it is … when the horses are winning! But they don’t win all the time. It’s a business of ups and downs.

Let me share some of my own experiences with you … when I started investing on horses I expected to win a fortune right away. Luckily it wasn’t that easy. “Luckily?” I hear you ask in amazement “Surely it’s better to win straight away?” Well in one way of course you’re right! It’s great winning! … but look at it this way. If you win straight away it seems too easy. So you don’t prepare for the hard times. But if you lose initially … well you already know it can be tough so you’re better prepared when things don’t go as well as you expect.

My Learning Curve was Expensive!
Now You can benefit from it …

I lost for 6 straight months! I know that seems unbelievable. So did my friends! They used to say “Bob, you’re crazy. When are you going to give it up?”

Luckily I don’t give up easily … and all the time I was learning. I was getting better and better at judging the horses, the markets and the size of my bets. I did tons of research … and I kept making new contacts with “spies” … shrewd horseracing folk who could supply me with valuable information.

After 6 months I’d lost £35,000! Impressive when you only start with £15,000! But we were in the middle of the last property boom and I had no dependents so I’d re-mortgaged my house for £50,000 (I do NOTrecommend you do this!)

In Three Months I won it all back!
£35,000.00!

At the end of 6 months I started winning. In 3 short months I’d won back the £35,000 so was now “level”

And then I started winning … and boy did I win! I took £1,000’s and £1,000’s off the bookies for connections and myself. I specialised as the “guy who could get the money on” and racing professionals flocked to my door.

In the next year I took over £400,000 off the bookies on behalf of connections and myself! The bookies were not happy. One by one they closed the door in my face, closed my accounts and refused my bets.

£400,000.00 in a year!
£8,000.00 a week!

One word of warning! In the year I won £400,000 … I had two losing months! That’s right TWO losing months! Imagine if you’d looked over my shoulder with the intention of making money by copying my bets during one of those months … you’d have thought “No way!” … and you’d have missed out on the chance to win £1,000 a day!

I share this with you because there’ll be times when it seems like we couldn’t pick a winner using tomorrow’s newspaper! There’s been plenty of times I felt like giving racing up altogether!

Bet a 25/1 Winner and
you’ll celebrate for a week!

Of course there’ll be other times when we have so many winners … or winners at such fantastic prices … you’ll wonder why you never did this before. As an example just imagine how you’d have felt if you’d bet one of the horses we did … Grey Kingdom in the Ayr Silver Cup … it won at 25/1! That’s £1,000 for every £40 invested!

One client wrote … “I had £100 each way and won £3,225.00!” another said “When Grey Kingdom went past the line first I was shouting so much the neighbours came round to see what all the noise was about. Thanks Bob” 

You have to take the rough with the smooth. I know you can do this because you wouldn’t have joined me unless you were an optimist. But it’s still good to be prepared.

How many winning opportunities each month?

You’ll have around 8-12 opportunities to win each month. You’ll only participate when it suits you. I’ll text, write or email you at times to remind you when we have a suitable opportunity if you haven’t called for a while, or sometimes remind you on the phone. These advices will be for horses strongly fancied to win and carrying professional money.
How do I place my bets?

The best way to stay “under the radar” is to nip down to your local betting shop and place your bets in cash … whatever you like for yourself, and £50 for connections … and then … collect any winnings whenever we have a successful investment!

There’s something magical about collecting a wad of cash and stuffing it in your wallet so it nearly bursts! I love it! It’s a great feeling and always brings a smile to my face.

FREE Bets!
Get yourself a few £100’s FREE Now!

Having said the above there is a more convenient way to place bets now and that’s by the internet. But you have to be careful and only deal with bookmakers you’ve checked out and can trust.

To save you time I’ve checked out a number of these. Over the years I’ve had a lot of experience with bookmakers and I’ve had accounts with these and they’ve paid me when I won! I’ve also put friends into them who’ve had accounts and got paid too so I know they’re reliable.

What more several of them are offering very generous FREE bets when you open an account. I’ve listed the best of them on my website below.

Be quick if you do want to pick up some free money! Some of these offers won’t last long because it’s been costing the bookies a lot of money when in-the-know entrepreneurial types like yourself have used my techniques to make it Win-Win for yourself!

… So if you want to get started right away you could go to my website now

www.HorseRacingPro.co.uk

Click on the “FREE Bets” tab on the website and grab yourself one or two of the offers (I’d start with the £200.00 from “Bet365”, £150.00 from Stan James and £50.00 from Betfred) … and to help you win money risk free I’ve written a report entitled

“How to Cash in on Free Bets from online bookies”

There’s a section in it where I explain how you could win £1,000 risk free using the bookies money! … or guarantee yourself a profit whether the horse wins or loses!!

I used to retail this for £50 but if you’d like a free copy (yes FREE, Complimentary, Gratis!) just let my office know and we’ll email or post you a copy … but the first step is to open those accounts so you lock in the free offer now! You don’t need any money to open the accounts by the way. Leave that till later if you want.

How do I reward connections for winners?


Here’s how my clients reward connections … they send the odds to a £50 bet for each advice … but only if it wins!!! Just send me the winnings from a £50 bet each time you get a winner … and of course you’ll be enjoying your own winning bet so you’ll be winning too. And as the bookie pays the winnings, winners don’t cost you a penny!!
As an example suppose the horse wins at 3/1. £50 at 3/1 wins £150 so you just send me the £150 winnings … NB!! Keep your stake for next time! … and if you’d invested say £200 for yourself … you’d win £600 too!
Quality Information!
… so we win together


I know how good this information is. I could have asked you to send £50, £100 or more in advance for each advice, win or lose. Some tipsters ask for £1,000! … I don’t! … I want to gamble on the win with you! … and so do our connections! … that’s why I prefer you place this £50 on the horse together with your own bet… why? … the reason’s simple! …

First I know a good proportion of these horses will win! That’s why I’m advising them to you in the first place! Secondly I cannot get big bets on myself anymore. Let me tell you about another horse we bet as an example.
The owner had waited more than 6 months for it to win. So he’d spent over £6,000 on training (£1,000 a month to keep a racehorse). He’d agreed to tell me when the horse was ready to win in exchange for me placing a free bet of £1,000 on it for him as a contribution towards his costs.
Nowadays I can’t get that size bet on so I shared it with 20 clients who each placed £50. They were just as much “in the know” for their £50 as the owner was who’d spent £6,000. Now that’s good value isn’t it!?
It’s hard for me to get a bet of more than £200 or £300 on without causing alarm bells to ring. So I share this information with a small group of people, say 20 for example, and they each put £50 on. That covers the “present” for the connections and I can still win with my own bet.
Most importantly we all win together. When you win, I win. I don’t believe in charging for losing information without any risk like so many other racing advisory services do (is that why they have to advertise every day?). That’s why I only expect you to send me money when we win! That way you can be confident I will be only give you horses I think will win. But they won’t all win and I wouldn’t want you to get the wrong impression.
These horses are strongly fancied and are all expected to win by their connections. But experience shows they only win about half the time at best. So take a long term view and don’t put all your money on one horse! I reckon our long term strike rate is around 30-40%. So bet accordingly … and never bet money you can’t afford to lose! These are good bets but not certainties! A sensible policy might be to restrict your bets to 10% of your available betting bank at any one time.
Winners are “FREE”!

When the horse wins the bookie pays your winnings and returns your stake. So you get your own stake back as well as the £50 you invested for connections. So the winner hasn’t cost you a penny piece. It’s the bookie who’s paid everyone out!

You’re in profit from your winnings and connections have recouped some expenses from the £50 you placed for them in exchange for the inside information.


How do I send the winnings?

Simply send cash, cheque or postal order or make a Bank Transfer. Best to send the same day if you can. So we can settle with connections quickly … they often let slip details about the next juicy horse when we’re delivering their winnings so I like to send it to them ASAP!

Do I use a betting shop,
telephone or internet account?

Up to you. Use betting shops if you love the feeling of winning in cash and want to stay “anonymous” or under the radar. Internet or telephone betting is more convenient and if you’re using a free bet offer from a reputable internet bookmaker then it’s a lot more profitable too!

The reason why using betting shops keeps you under the radar and protects the odds for longer is if you use a telephone or internet account you are plugged directly into the “Trading Room” – the bookmaker’s nerve centre!
Here they can see immediately if a horse is being bet heavily because they’ll be getting phone calls for the same horse from different parts of the country. I have known them put you on hold and wait a minute or two while they send money to the track to reduce the odds before offering you the smaller price! … very annoying! 

Celebrate Your Wins! 

Finally I’d just like to say “Welcome” once again. This business is the best in the world when you’re betting winners!

The money flows in effortlessly! On the other hand it’s not much fun when you have the inevitable losers. So make sure you celebrate when you have a good win, it helps carry you through any bad spells!

I hope this letter has explained any queries you might have had … I’ve tried to cover all the points of the basis of our relationship.

Win or lose you can rest assured I’ll be doing my best to supply you with sound Professional Information from our contacts. Like you I’m sure, I look forward to a long and mutually profitable association.

Warm regards

Bob Rothman

Stacking the odds in Your Favour

PS The next bet is on Saturday 9th June (weather permitting). You can call the office around 11.30ish on 01932 869400 or I’ll text you the details and you can just reply with the codeword.

body{ font-family:arial; font-size:12px; }“Winning money … week after week …

it’s the most exciting way I’ve ever made a living!”

Dear John

Congratulate yourself John!… why? … because clearly you’re someone who takes action. You, like me, enjoy having the opportunity to make money … now you have an opportunity to win £1,000’s … just like I did years ago … before the bookmakers closed my accounts and started refusing my bets because I was winning too much!

Welcome aboard! I hope we enjoy a long and profitable and enjoyable association. You can be sure I will be working my butt off to share winners with you!

Racing can be Fun and Profitable!

Racing is the best “business” I’ve ever known. The most fun, profitable and stimulating “work” you could ever enjoy. It can give you tons of free time as well as tons of money. It can give you immense satisfaction so you go to “work” with a smile on your face full of excitement “will it be a BIG one today!!?” … the question I wake up to every day.

Why is betting on horses such a

“High Potential” Business?

I don’t know any other business where one minute you can be scratching around worrying about paying your bills and then BAM! You have a great bet on a 10/1 winner and all of a sudden you’ve got so much cash in your wallet you want to throw a party, book a holiday, buy a new car or just pay off all your credit card bills! It’s an amazing feeling!

It’s happened to me on more than one occasion … it stuns and amazes my friends! One minute they’re feeling sorry for me and just a tiny bit “superior” because of their nice steady job and regular (but barely-enough-to-survive) income! The next minute they’re as jealous as hell!

The Best Business I’ve known for over 30 years!

Before I started betting horses I’d tried making money in a variety of businesses. None came close to racing! They can’t hold a candle to it! Get this business right and you will never “work” again!

Here’s the businesses I tried before I discovered this Gold Mine! … My first business in the 70’s sold telephone answering machines from America years before they were available in the UK (light years before mobile phones!) Then I branched out and set up a computer sales company, a software business, a computer maintenance operation, two different magazine, a discount card club and a marketing company. All were a lot of hard work but still great fun … but none compared in any way to betting for a living!

Like to know the difference between these businesses and racing? … in those businesses I was always struggling with cash flow! Meeting payroll every month was a big worry! Paying bills was a disaster! … not because we weren’t successful … it was because we were rapidly expanding!

At one stage we were expanding so fast I was hiring a couple of engineers and a salesman every month! … but it was killing my cash flow because it meant I had to buy three more new cars every month!! … yes they were on “hire-purchase” or leases but it was still hard to find the deposits!

Do banks love businesses that expand like the clappers? Well if you were like me and needed to borrow money to finance the expansion? Forget it! I had to to sell my house to fund the last business. I was fed up of working 12 hours a day making everyone else money and going into debt myself! (I didn’t draw a salary from my marketing company for over a year and re-mortgaged my house to pay wages!) … so I packed it all in to make money betting instead!

How I got started …

Did things improve the day I started betting horses?

It got worse! I lost £35,000 in 6 months … not bad when you’d only started with £15,000! … my friends thought I was nuts and I was wondering if they might be right?

But like anything you do over and over again you get better. I was still losing … but after a while I lost less! Finally after 6 months I started winning!!! 9 months later I’d won all my losses back and was back up to “Zero”! I felt great! From then on it’s well known history. I won and won and kicked the greedy bookmakers into touch!

When I won too much they banned me …

 

One by one they closed my accounts and banned me …

“We hate having to pay you out week after week, after week, after week … your final cheque in the sum of £21,153,75 duly enclosed” -City Index.

“Your account was closed with us because you had become a luxury we could not afford” – Bob Menzies

One firm didn’t ban me but would only let me have a tiny bet to find out what I was doing … then one day they refused me 50P yes 50 pence! on a horse at a price!! I was furious and never had a proper bet with them again (until I recently discovered an ingenious way of outwitting their internet division!) You may know that firm … Ladbrokes!! Maybe they couldn’t afford the risk, ha ha! After all they only own 2,000 betting shops!! Bookies are gutless!

Now it’s your turn to win!

First let me make it quite clear there are no guarantees. I imagine when you win it’ll seem so easy. But equally there will be (many) times when you think B***** H***! I’m sure you, like me, like to win. But I’m notscared of losing. Losing is part of winning in racing. It would be dead easy if they all won. But 30-40% winners can provide a fantastic lifestyle.

This new business could mean a new way of life for you … open up possibilities of winning more money than you could ever earn slogging away long hard hours at unrewarding work … but it’s not always easy … the best things in life never are, wouldn’t you agree?

… and you can count on one thing … when you find something that could make a difference … something that could be a bit special … a lot of people will “crib” about it … they’ll never agree with you … after all in the words of one philosopher …”if you do what everyone else does … you’ll get what everyone else has … usually not a lot!”

 

You’re a Pioneer!

 

To win you have to dare to be different!

Let me ask you a question? … How do you make a lot of money in say the stock market? The real question is of course “How do you buy a share that will go up in value?”

Is it by waiting to see what everyone is buying? … waiting and waiting until everyone you speak to agrees it’s a good buy … because they’ve already bought at a lower price? … then buying when you’re the last one in?

NO WAY! To make real money you need to be among the first in! By the time everyone else thinks it’s a good idea … the first one’s in are already taking their profits and selling!

Just the same for this opportunity. Betting on horses has become “respectable”! It’s the new “Stock market”! What a great time to be in it! The Government “donated” £492,000,000 a year to horse racing investors by abolishing betting tax. A flood of smart people eager to make money from this new opportunity have flocked into racing and are winning £1,000’s! And now you too can get your share of this great opportunity.

You’re a Winner!

You’re a winner already! Why? … because you took action. Taking action is what differentiates winners from losers. Most people need to wait for others approval before they can take action themselves. You’ve shown you’ve got what it takes. Obviously taking action by itself doesn’t guarantee success. But you can’t succeed without taking action first.

You took action and joined me. I appreciate that. It takes guts to do something different … and something as outrageous as winning tax free money betting on horses! Most people don’t believe it can be done because they’ve never seen anyone do it!

Maybe you’ve never invested on horses before. Maybe you have, but didn’t win as much as you’d have liked. Maybe you’re already a “pro”. Whatever your circumstances I guess you joined me because I’ve proved I can win a lot of money from the bookmakers … and you’d like to win too … how? … by investing on racehorses our contacts tell us can win.

How Much Can I Win?

 

How much can you win? … the sky’s the limit! You can win fortunes … in fact I won so much the cowardly bookmakers closed my accounts and refused to take my bets anymore. Now I don’t want to pretend it’s easy. Sometimes it is … when the horses are winning! But they don’t win all the time. It’s a business of ups and downs.

Let me share some of my own experiences with you … when I started investing on horses I expected to win a fortune right away. Luckily it wasn’t that easy. “Luckily?” I hear you ask in amazement “Surely it’s better to win straight away?” Well in one way of course you’re right! It’s great winning! … but look at it this way. If you win straight away it seems too easy. So you don’t prepare for the hard times. But if you lose initially … well you already know it can be tough so you’re better prepared when things don’t go as well as you expect.

My Learning Curve was Expensive!

Now You can benefit from it …

 

I lost for 6 straight months! I know that seems unbelievable. So did my friends! They used to say “Bob, you’re crazy. When are you going to give it up?”

Luckily I don’t give up easily … and all the time I was learning. I was getting better and better at judging the horses, the markets and the size of my bets. I did tons of research … and I kept making new contacts with “spies” … shrewd horseracing folk who could supply me with valuable information.

After 6 months I’d lost £35,000! Impressive when you only start with £15,000! But we were in the middle of the last property boom and I had no dependents so I’d re-mortgaged my house for £50,000 (I do NOT recommend you do this!)

 

In Three Months I won it all back!

£35,000.00!

At the end of 6 months I started winning. In 3 short months I’d won back the £35,000 so was now “level”

And then I started winning … and boy did I win! I took £1,000’s and £1,000’s off the bookies for connections and myself. I specialised as the “guy who could get the money on” and racing professionals flocked to my door.

In the next year I took over £400,000 off the bookies on behalf of connections and myself! The bookies were not happy. One by one they closed the door in my face, closed my accounts and refused my bets.

£400,000.00 in a year!

£8,000.00 a week!

 

One word of warning! In the year I won £400,000 … I had two losing months! That’s right TWO losing months! Imagine if you’d looked over my shoulder with the intention of making money by copying my bets during one of those months … you’d have thought “No way!” … and you’d have missed out on the chance to win £1,000 a day!

I share this with you because there’ll be times when it seems like we couldn’t pick a winner using tomorrow’s newspaper! There’s been plenty of times I felt like giving racing up altogether!

Bet a 25/1 Winner and

you’ll celebrate for a week!

Of course there’ll be other times when we have so many winners … or winners at such fantastic prices … you’ll wonder why you never did this before. As an example just imagine how you’d have felt if you’d bet one of the horses we did … Grey Kingdom in the Ayr Silver Cup … it won at 25/1! That’s £1,000 for every £40 invested!

One client wrote … “I had £100 each way and won £3,225.00!” another said “When Grey Kingdom went past the line first I was shouting so much the neighbours came round to see what all the noise was about. Thanks Bob”

You have to take the rough with the smooth. I know you can do this because you wouldn’t have joined me unless you were an optimist. But it’s still good to be prepared.

How many winning opportunities each month?

 

You’ll have around 8-12 opportunities to win each month. You’ll only participate when it suits you. I’ll text, write or email you at times to remind you when we have a suitable opportunity if you haven’t called for a while, or sometimes remind you on the phone. These advices will be for horses strongly fancied to win and carrying professional money.

How do I place my bets?

 

The best way to stay “under the radar” is to nip down to your local betting shop and place your bets in cash … whatever you like for yourself, and £50 for connections … and then … collect any winnings whenever we have a successful investment!

There’s something magical about collecting a wad of cash and stuffing it in your wallet so it nearly bursts! I love it! It’s a great feeling and always brings a smile to my face.

FREE Bets!

Get yourself a few £100’s FREE Now!

Having said the above there is a more convenient way to place bets now and that’s by the internet. But you have to be careful and only deal with bookmakers you’ve checked out and can trust.

To save you time I’ve checked out a number of these. Over the years I’ve had a lot of experience with bookmakers and I’ve had accounts with these and they’ve paid me when I won! I’ve also put friends into them who’ve had accounts and got paid too so I know they’re reliable.

What more several of them are offering very generous FREE bets when you open an account. I’ve listed the best of them on my website below.

Be quick if you do want to pick up some free money! Some of these offers won’t last long because it’s been costing the bookies a lot of money when in-the-know entrepreneurial types like yourself have used my techniques to make it Win-Win for yourself!

… So if you want to get started right away you could go to my website now

www.HorseRacingPro.co.uk

Click on the “FREE Bets” tab on the website and grab yourself one or two of the offers (I’d start with the £200.00 from “Bet365”, £150.00 from Stan James and £50.00 from Betfred) … and to help you win money risk free I’ve written a report entitled

“How to Cash in on Free Bets from online bookies”

There’s a section in it where I explain how you could win £1,000 risk free using the bookies money! … or guarantee yourself a profit whether the horse wins or loses!!

I used to retail this for £50 but if you’d like a free copy (yes FREE, Complimentary, Gratis!) just let my office know and we’ll email or post you a copy … but the first step is to open those accounts so you lock in the free offer now! You don’t need any money to open the accounts by the way. Leave that till later if you want.

 

How do I reward connections for winners?

 

Here’s how my clients reward connections … they send the odds to a £50 bet for each advice … but only if it wins!!! Just send me the winnings from a £50 bet each time you get a winner … and of course you’ll be enjoying your own winning bet so you’ll be winning too. And as the bookie pays the winnings, winners don’t cost you a penny!!

As an example suppose the horse wins at 3/1. £50 at 3/1 wins £150 so you just send me the £150 winnings … NB!! Keep your stake for next time! … and if you’d invested say £200 for yourself … you’d win £600 too!

Quality Information!

… so we win together

 

I know how good this information is. I could have asked you to send £50, £100 or more in advance for each advice, win or lose. Some tipsters ask for £1,000! … I don’t! … I want to gamble on the win with you! … and so do our connections! … that’s why I prefer you place this £50 on the horse together with your own bet… why? … the reason’s simple! …

First I know a good proportion of these horses will win! That’s why I’m advising them to you in the first place! Secondly I cannot get big bets on myself anymore. Let me tell you about another horse we bet as an example.

The owner had waited more than 6 months for it to win. So he’d spent over £6,000 on training (£1,000 a month to keep a racehorse). He’d agreed to tell me when the horse was ready to win in exchange for me placing a free bet of £1,000 on it for him as a contribution towards his costs.

Nowadays I can’t get that size bet on so I shared it with 20 clients who each placed £50. They were just as much “in the know” for their £50 as the owner was who’d spent £6,000. Now that’s good value isn’t it!?

It’s hard for me to get a bet of more than £200 or £300 on without causing alarm bells to ring. So I share this information with a small group of people, say 20 for example, and they each put £50 on. That covers the “present” for the connections and I can still win with my own bet.

Most importantly we all win together. When you win, I win. I don’t believe in charging for losing information without any risk like so many other racing advisory services do (is that why they have to advertise every day?). That’s why I only expect you to send me money when we win! That way you can be confident I will be only give you horses I think will win. But they won’t all win and I wouldn’t want you to get the wrong impression.

These horses are strongly fancied and are all expected to win by their connections. But experience shows they only win about half the time at best. So take a long term view and don’t put all your money on one horse! I reckon our long term strike rate is around 30-40%. So bet accordingly … and never bet money you can’t afford to lose! These are good bets but not certainties! A sensible policy might be to restrict your bets to 10% of your available betting bank at any one time.

Winners are “FREE”!

When the horse wins the bookie pays your winnings and returns your stake. So you get your own stake back as well as the £50 you invested for connections. So the winner hasn’t cost you a penny piece. It’s the bookie who’s paid everyone out!

You’re in profit from your winnings and connections have recouped some expenses from the £50 you placed for them in exchange for the inside information.

How do I send the winnings?

Simply send cash, cheque or postal order or make a Bank Transfer. Best to send the same day if you can. So we can settle with connections quickly … they often let slip details about the next juicy horse when we’re delivering their winnings so I like to send it to them ASAP!

 

 

 

Do I use a betting shop,

telephone or internet account?

Up to you. Use betting shops if you love the feeling of winning in cash and want to stay “anonymous” or under the radar. Internet or telephone betting is more convenient and if you’re using a free bet offer from a reputable internet bookmaker then it’s a lot more profitable too!

The reason why using betting shops keeps you under the radar and protects the odds for longer is if you use a telephone or internet account you are plugged directly into the “Trading Room” – the bookmaker’s nerve centre!

Here they can see immediately if a horse is being bet heavily because they’ll be getting phone calls for the same horse from different parts of the country. I have known them put you on hold and wait a minute or two while they send money to the track to reduce the odds before offering you the smaller price! … very annoying!

Celebrate Your Wins!

Finally I’d just like to say “Welcome” once again. This business is the best in the world when you’re betting winners!

The money flows in effortlessly! On the other hand it’s not much fun when you have the inevitable losers. So make sure you celebrate when you have a good win, it helps carry you through any bad spells!

I hope this letter has explained any queries you might have had … I’ve tried to cover all the points of the basis of our relationship.

Win or lose you can rest assured I’ll be doing my best to supply you with sound Professional Information from our contacts. Like you I’m sure, I look forward to a long and mutually profitable association.

Warm regards

Bob Rothman

Stacking the odds in Your Favour

PS The next bet is on Saturday 9th June (weather permitting). You can call the office around 11.30ish on 01932 869400 or I’ll text you the details and you can just reply with the codeword.

body{ font-family:arial; font-size:12px; }“Winning money … week after week …

it’s the most exciting way I’ve ever made a living!”

Dear John

Congratulate yourself John!… why? … because clearly you’re someone who takes action. You, like me, enjoy having the opportunity to make money … now you have an opportunity to win £1,000’s … just like I did years ago … before the bookmakers closed my accounts and started refusing my bets because I was winning too much!

Welcome aboard! I hope we enjoy a long and profitable and enjoyable association. You can be sure I will be working my butt off to share winners with you!

Racing can be Fun and Profitable!

Racing is the best “business” I’ve ever known. The most fun, profitable and stimulating “work” you could ever enjoy. It can give you tons of free time as well as tons of money. It can give you immense satisfaction so you go to “work” with a smile on your face full of excitement “will it be a BIG one today!!?” … the question I wake up to every day.

Why is betting on horses such a

“High Potential” Business?

I don’t know any other business where one minute you can be scratching around worrying about paying your bills and then BAM! You have a great bet on a 10/1 winner and all of a sudden you’ve got so much cash in your wallet you want to throw a party, book a holiday, buy a new car or just pay off all your credit card bills! It’s an amazing feeling!

It’s happened to me on more than one occasion … it stuns and amazes my friends! One minute they’re feeling sorry for me and just a tiny bit “superior” because of their nice steady job and regular (but barely-enough-to-survive) income! The next minute they’re as jealous as hell!

The Best Business I’ve known for over 30 years!

Before I started betting horses I’d tried making money in a variety of businesses. None came close to racing! They can’t hold a candle to it! Get this business right and you will never “work” again!

Here’s the businesses I tried before I discovered this Gold Mine! … My first business in the 70’s sold telephone answering machines from America years before they were available in the UK (light years before mobile phones!) Then I branched out and set up a computer sales company, a software business, a computer maintenance operation, two different magazine, a discount card club and a marketing company. All were a lot of hard work but still great fun … but none compared in any way to betting for a living!

Like to know the difference between these businesses and racing? … in those businesses I was always struggling with cash flow! Meeting payroll every month was a big worry! Paying bills was a disaster! … not because we weren’t successful … it was because we were rapidly expanding!

At one stage we were expanding so fast I was hiring a couple of engineers and a salesman every month! … but it was killing my cash flow because it meant I had to buy three more new cars every month!! … yes they were on “hire-purchase” or leases but it was still hard to find the deposits!

Do banks love businesses that expand like the clappers? Well if you were like me and needed to borrow money to finance the expansion? Forget it! I had to to sell my house to fund the last business. I was fed up of working 12 hours a day making everyone else money and going into debt myself! (I didn’t draw a salary from my marketing company for over a year and re-mortgaged my house to pay wages!) … so I packed it all in to make money betting instead!

How I got started …

Did things improve the day I started betting horses?

It got worse! I lost £35,000 in 6 months … not bad when you’d only started with £15,000! … my friends thought I was nuts and I was wondering if they might be right?

But like anything you do over and over again you get better. I was still losing … but after a while I lost less! Finally after 6 months I started winning!!! 9 months later I’d won all my losses back and was back up to “Zero”! I felt great! From then on it’s well known history. I won and won and kicked the greedy bookmakers into touch!

When I won too much they banned me …

 

One by one they closed my accounts and banned me …

“We hate having to pay you out week after week, after week, after week … your final cheque in the sum of £21,153,75 duly enclosed” -City Index.

“Your account was closed with us because you had become a luxury we could not afford” – Bob Menzies

One firm didn’t ban me but would only let me have a tiny bet to find out what I was doing … then one day they refused me 50P yes 50 pence! on a horse at a price!! I was furious and never had a proper bet with them again (until I recently discovered an ingenious way of outwitting their internet division!) You may know that firm … Ladbrokes!! Maybe they couldn’t afford the risk, ha ha! After all they only own 2,000 betting shops!! Bookies are gutless!

Now it’s your turn to win!

First let me make it quite clear there are no guarantees. I imagine when you win it’ll seem so easy. But equally there will be (many) times when you think B***** H***! I’m sure you, like me, like to win. But I’m notscared of losing. Losing is part of winning in racing. It would be dead easy if they all won. But 30-40% winners can provide a fantastic lifestyle.

This new business could mean a new way of life for you … open up possibilities of winning more money than you could ever earn slogging away long hard hours at unrewarding work … but it’s not always easy … the best things in life never are, wouldn’t you agree?

… and you can count on one thing … when you find something that could make a difference … something that could be a bit special … a lot of people will “crib” about it … they’ll never agree with you … after all in the words of one philosopher …”if you do what everyone else does … you’ll get what everyone else has … usually not a lot!”

 

You’re a Pioneer!

 

To win you have to dare to be different!

Let me ask you a question? … How do you make a lot of money in say the stock market? The real question is of course “How do you buy a share that will go up in value?”

Is it by waiting to see what everyone is buying? … waiting and waiting until everyone you speak to agrees it’s a good buy … because they’ve already bought at a lower price? … then buying when you’re the last one in?

NO WAY! To make real money you need to be among the first in! By the time everyone else thinks it’s a good idea … the first one’s in are already taking their profits and selling!

Just the same for this opportunity. Betting on horses has become “respectable”! It’s the new “Stock market”! What a great time to be in it! The Government “donated” £492,000,000 a year to horse racing investors by abolishing betting tax. A flood of smart people eager to make money from this new opportunity have flocked into racing and are winning £1,000’s! And now you too can get your share of this great opportunity.

You’re a Winner!

You’re a winner already! Why? … because you took action. Taking action is what differentiates winners from losers. Most people need to wait for others approval before they can take action themselves. You’ve shown you’ve got what it takes. Obviously taking action by itself doesn’t guarantee success. But you can’t succeed without taking action first.

You took action and joined me. I appreciate that. It takes guts to do something different … and something as outrageous as winning tax free money betting on horses! Most people don’t believe it can be done because they’ve never seen anyone do it!

Maybe you’ve never invested on horses before. Maybe you have, but didn’t win as much as you’d have liked. Maybe you’re already a “pro”. Whatever your circumstances I guess you joined me because I’ve proved I can win a lot of money from the bookmakers … and you’d like to win too … how? … by investing on racehorses our contacts tell us can win.

How Much Can I Win?

 

How much can you win? … the sky’s the limit! You can win fortunes … in fact I won so much the cowardly bookmakers closed my accounts and refused to take my bets anymore. Now I don’t want to pretend it’s easy. Sometimes it is … when the horses are winning! But they don’t win all the time. It’s a business of ups and downs.

Let me share some of my own experiences with you … when I started investing on horses I expected to win a fortune right away. Luckily it wasn’t that easy. “Luckily?” I hear you ask in amazement “Surely it’s better to win straight away?” Well in one way of course you’re right! It’s great winning! … but look at it this way. If you win straight away it seems too easy. So you don’t prepare for the hard times. But if you lose initially … well you already know it can be tough so you’re better prepared when things don’t go as well as you expect.

My Learning Curve was Expensive!

Now You can benefit from it …

 

I lost for 6 straight months! I know that seems unbelievable. So did my friends! They used to say “Bob, you’re crazy. When are you going to give it up?”

Luckily I don’t give up easily … and all the time I was learning. I was getting better and better at judging the horses, the markets and the size of my bets. I did tons of research … and I kept making new contacts with “spies” … shrewd horseracing folk who could supply me with valuable information.

After 6 months I’d lost £35,000! Impressive when you only start with £15,000! But we were in the middle of the last property boom and I had no dependents so I’d re-mortgaged my house for £50,000 (I do NOT recommend you do this!)

 

In Three Months I won it all back!

£35,000.00!

At the end of 6 months I started winning. In 3 short months I’d won back the £35,000 so was now “level”

And then I started winning … and boy did I win! I took £1,000’s and £1,000’s off the bookies for connections and myself. I specialised as the “guy who could get the money on” and racing professionals flocked to my door.

In the next year I took over £400,000 off the bookies on behalf of connections and myself! The bookies were not happy. One by one they closed the door in my face, closed my accounts and refused my bets.

£400,000.00 in a year!

£8,000.00 a week!

 

One word of warning! In the year I won £400,000 … I had two losing months! That’s right TWO losing months! Imagine if you’d looked over my shoulder with the intention of making money by copying my bets during one of those months … you’d have thought “No way!” … and you’d have missed out on the chance to win £1,000 a day!

I share this with you because there’ll be times when it seems like we couldn’t pick a winner using tomorrow’s newspaper! There’s been plenty of times I felt like giving racing up altogether!

Bet a 25/1 Winner and

you’ll celebrate for a week!

Of course there’ll be other times when we have so many winners … or winners at such fantastic prices … you’ll wonder why you never did this before. As an example just imagine how you’d have felt if you’d bet one of the horses we did … Grey Kingdom in the Ayr Silver Cup … it won at 25/1! That’s £1,000 for every £40 invested!

One client wrote … “I had £100 each way and won £3,225.00!” another said “When Grey Kingdom went past the line first I was shouting so much the neighbours came round to see what all the noise was about. Thanks Bob”

You have to take the rough with the smooth. I know you can do this because you wouldn’t have joined me unless you were an optimist. But it’s still good to be prepared.

How many winning opportunities each month?

 

You’ll have around 8-12 opportunities to win each month. You’ll only participate when it suits you. I’ll text, write or email you at times to remind you when we have a suitable opportunity if you haven’t called for a while, or sometimes remind you on the phone. These advices will be for horses strongly fancied to win and carrying professional money.

How do I place my bets?

 

The best way to stay “under the radar” is to nip down to your local betting shop and place your bets in cash … whatever you like for yourself, and £50 for connections … and then … collect any winnings whenever we have a successful investment!

There’s something magical about collecting a wad of cash and stuffing it in your wallet so it nearly bursts! I love it! It’s a great feeling and always brings a smile to my face.

FREE Bets!

Get yourself a few £100’s FREE Now!

Having said the above there is a more convenient way to place bets now and that’s by the internet. But you have to be careful and only deal with bookmakers you’ve checked out and can trust.

To save you time I’ve checked out a number of these. Over the years I’ve had a lot of experience with bookmakers and I’ve had accounts with these and they’ve paid me when I won! I’ve also put friends into them who’ve had accounts and got paid too so I know they’re reliable.

What more several of them are offering very generous FREE bets when you open an account. I’ve listed the best of them on my website below.

Be quick if you do want to pick up some free money! Some of these offers won’t last long because it’s been costing the bookies a lot of money when in-the-know entrepreneurial types like yourself have used my techniques to make it Win-Win for yourself!

… So if you want to get started right away you could go to my website now

www.HorseRacingPro.co.uk

Click on the “FREE Bets” tab on the website and grab yourself one or two of the offers (I’d start with the £200.00 from “Bet365”, £150.00 from Stan James and £50.00 from Betfred) … and to help you win money risk free I’ve written a report entitled

“How to Cash in on Free Bets from online bookies”

There’s a section in it where I explain how you could win £1,000 risk free using the bookies money! … or guarantee yourself a profit whether the horse wins or loses!!

I used to retail this for £50 but if you’d like a free copy (yes FREE, Complimentary, Gratis!) just let my office know and we’ll email or post you a copy … but the first step is to open those accounts so you lock in the free offer now! You don’t need any money to open the accounts by the way. Leave that till later if you want.

 

How do I reward connections for winners?

 

Here’s how my clients reward connections … they send the odds to a £50 bet for each advice … but only if it wins!!! Just send me the winnings from a £50 bet each time you get a winner … and of course you’ll be enjoying your own winning bet so you’ll be winning too. And as the bookie pays the winnings, winners don’t cost you a penny!!

As an example suppose the horse wins at 3/1. £50 at 3/1 wins £150 so you just send me the £150 winnings … NB!! Keep your stake for next time! … and if you’d invested say £200 for yourself … you’d win £600 too!

Quality Information!

… so we win together

 

I know how good this information is. I could have asked you to send £50, £100 or more in advance for each advice, win or lose. Some tipsters ask for £1,000! … I don’t! … I want to gamble on the win with you! … and so do our connections! … that’s why I prefer you place this £50 on the horse together with your own bet… why? … the reason’s simple! …

First I know a good proportion of these horses will win! That’s why I’m advising them to you in the first place! Secondly I cannot get big bets on myself anymore. Let me tell you about another horse we bet as an example.

The owner had waited more than 6 months for it to win. So he’d spent over £6,000 on training (£1,000 a month to keep a racehorse). He’d agreed to tell me when the horse was ready to win in exchange for me placing a free bet of £1,000 on it for him as a contribution towards his costs.

Nowadays I can’t get that size bet on so I shared it with 20 clients who each placed £50. They were just as much “in the know” for their £50 as the owner was who’d spent £6,000. Now that’s good value isn’t it!?

It’s hard for me to get a bet of more than £200 or £300 on without causing alarm bells to ring. So I share this information with a small group of people, say 20 for example, and they each put £50 on. That covers the “present” for the connections and I can still win with my own bet.

Most importantly we all win together. When you win, I win. I don’t believe in charging for losing information without any risk like so many other racing advisory services do (is that why they have to advertise every day?). That’s why I only expect you to send me money when we win! That way you can be confident I will be only give you horses I think will win. But they won’t all win and I wouldn’t want you to get the wrong impression.

These horses are strongly fancied and are all expected to win by their connections. But experience shows they only win about half the time at best. So take a long term view and don’t put all your money on one horse! I reckon our long term strike rate is around 30-40%. So bet accordingly … and never bet money you can’t afford to lose! These are good bets but not certainties! A sensible policy might be to restrict your bets to 10% of your available betting bank at any one time.

Winners are “FREE”!

When the horse wins the bookie pays your winnings and returns your stake. So you get your own stake back as well as the £50 you invested for connections. So the winner hasn’t cost you a penny piece. It’s the bookie who’s paid everyone out!

You’re in profit from your winnings and connections have recouped some expenses from the £50 you placed for them in exchange for the inside information.

How do I send the winnings?

Simply send cash, cheque or postal order or make a Bank Transfer. Best to send the same day if you can. So we can settle with connections quickly … they often let slip details about the next juicy horse when we’re delivering their winnings so I like to send it to them ASAP!

 

 

 

Do I use a betting shop,

telephone or internet account?

Up to you. Use betting shops if you love the feeling of winning in cash and want to stay “anonymous” or under the radar. Internet or telephone betting is more convenient and if you’re using a free bet offer from a reputable internet bookmaker then it’s a lot more profitable too!

The reason why using betting shops keeps you under the radar and protects the odds for longer is if you use a telephone or internet account you are plugged directly into the “Trading Room” – the bookmaker’s nerve centre!

Here they can see immediately if a horse is being bet heavily because they’ll be getting phone calls for the same horse from different parts of the country. I have known them put you on hold and wait a minute or two while they send money to the track to reduce the odds before offering you the smaller price! … very annoying!

Celebrate Your Wins!

Finally I’d just like to say “Welcome” once again. This business is the best in the world when you’re betting winners!

The money flows in effortlessly! On the other hand it’s not much fun when you have the inevitable losers. So make sure you celebrate when you have a good win, it helps carry you through any bad spells!

I hope this letter has explained any queries you might have had … I’ve tried to cover all the points of the basis of our relationship.

Win or lose you can rest assured I’ll be doing my best to supply you with sound Professional Information from our contacts. Like you I’m sure, I look forward to a long and mutually profitable association.

Warm regards

Bob Rothman

Stacking the odds in Your Favour

PS The next bet is on Saturday 9th June (weather permitting). You can call the office around 11.30ish on 01932 869400 or I’ll text you the details and you can just reply with the codeword.

“Winning money … week after week …

it’s the most exciting way I’ve ever made a living!”

Dear John

Congratulate yourself John!… why? … because clearly you’re someone who takes action. You, like me, enjoy having the opportunity to make money … now you have an opportunity to win £1,000’s … just like I did years ago … before the bookmakers closed my accounts and started refusing my bets because I was winning too much!

Welcome aboard! I hope we enjoy a long and profitable and enjoyable association. You can be sure I will be working my butt off to share winners with you!

Racing can be Fun and Profitable!

Racing is the best “business” I’ve ever known. The most fun, profitable and stimulating “work” you could ever enjoy. It can give you tons of free time as well as tons of money. It can give you immense satisfaction so you go to “work” with a smile on your face full of excitement “will it be a BIG one today!!?” … the question I wake up to every day.

Why is betting on horses such a

“High Potential” Business?

I don’t know any other business where one minute you can be scratching around worrying about paying your bills and then BAM! You have a great bet on a 10/1 winner and all of a sudden you’ve got so much cash in your wallet you want to throw a party, book a holiday, buy a new car or just pay off all your credit card bills! It’s an amazing feeling!

It’s happened to me on more than one occasion … it stuns and amazes my friends! One minute they’re feeling sorry for me and just a tiny bit “superior” because of their nice steady job and regular (but barely-enough-to-survive) income! The next minute they’re as jealous as hell!

The Best Business I’ve known for over 30 years!

Before I started betting horses I’d tried making money in a variety of businesses. None came close to racing! They can’t hold a candle to it! Get this business right and you will never “work” again!

Here’s the businesses I tried before I discovered this Gold Mine! … My first business in the 70’s sold telephone answering machines from America years before they were available in the UK (light years before mobile phones!) Then I branched out and set up a computer sales company, a software business, a computer maintenance operation, two different magazine, a discount card club and a marketing company. All were a lot of hard work but still great fun … but none compared in any way to betting for a living!

Like to know the difference between these businesses and racing? … in those businesses I was always struggling with cash flow! Meeting payroll every month was a big worry! Paying bills was a disaster! … not because we weren’t successful … it was because we were rapidly expanding!

At one stage we were expanding so fast I was hiring a couple of engineers and a salesman every month! … but it was killing my cash flow because it meant I had to buy three more new cars every month!! … yes they were on “hire-purchase” or leases but it was still hard to find the deposits!

Do banks love businesses that expand like the clappers? Well if you were like me and needed to borrow money to finance the expansion? Forget it! I had to to sell my house to fund the last business. I was fed up of working 12 hours a day making everyone else money and going into debt myself! (I didn’t draw a salary from my marketing company for over a year and re-mortgaged my house to pay wages!) … so I packed it all in to make money betting instead!

How I got started …

Did things improve the day I started betting horses?

It got worse! I lost £35,000 in 6 months … not bad when you’d only started with £15,000! … my friends thought I was nuts and I was wondering if they might be right?

But like anything you do over and over again you get better. I was still losing … but after a while I lost less! Finally after 6 months I started winning!!! 9 months later I’d won all my losses back and was back up to “Zero”! I felt great! From then on it’s well known history. I won and won and kicked the greedy bookmakers into touch!

When I won too much they banned me …

One by one they closed my accounts and banned me …

“ We hate having to pay you out week after week, after week, after week … your final cheque in the sum of £21,153,75 duly enclosed” -City Index.

“Your account was closed with us because you had become a luxury we could not afford” – Bob Menzies

One firm didn’t ban me but would only let me have a tiny bet to find out what I was doing … then one day they refused me 50P yes 50 pence! on a horse at a price!! I was furious and never had a proper bet with them again (until I recently discovered an ingenious way of outwitting their internet division!) You may know that firm … Ladbrokes!! Maybe they couldn’t afford the risk, ha ha! After all they only own 2,000 betting shops!! Bookies are gutless!

Now it’s your turn to win!

First let me make it quite clear there are no guarantees. I imagine when you win it’ll seem so easy. But equally there will be (many) times when you think B***** H***! I’m sure you, like me, like to win. But I’m notscared of losing. Losing is part of winning in racing. It would be dead easy if they all won. But 30-40% winners can provide a fantastic lifestyle.

This new business could mean a new way of life for you … open up possibilities of winning more money than you could ever earn slogging away long hard hours at unrewarding work … but it’s not always easy … the best things in life never are, wouldn’t you agree?

… and you can count on one thing … when you find something that could make a difference … something that could be a bit special … a lot of people will “crib” about it … they’ll never agree with you … after all in the words of one philosopher …” if you do what everyone else does … you’ll get what everyone else has … usually not a lot!”

 

You’re a Pioneer!

 

To win you have to dare to be different!

Let me ask you a question? … How do you make a lot of money in say the stock market? The real question is of course “How do you buy a share that will go up in value?”

Is it by waiting to see what everyone is buying? … waiting and waiting until everyone you speak to agrees it’s a good buy … because they’ve already bought at a lower price? … then buying when you’re the last one in?

NO WAY! To make real money you need to be among the first in! By the time everyone else thinks it’s a good idea … the first one’s in are already taking their profits and selling!

Just the same for this opportunity. Betting on horses has become “respectable”! It’s the new “Stock market”! What a great time to be in it! The Government “donated” £492,000,000 a year to horse racing investors by abolishing betting tax. A flood of smart people eager to make money from this new opportunity have flocked into racing and are winning £1,000’s! And now you too can get your share of this great opportunity.

You’re a Winner!

You’re a winner already! Why? … because you took action. Taking action is what differentiates winners from losers. Most people need to wait for others approval before they can take action themselves. You’ve shown you’ve got what it takes. Obviously taking action by itself doesn’t guarantee success. But you can’t succeed without taking action first.

You took action and joined me. I appreciate that. It takes guts to do something different … and something as outrageous as winning tax free money betting on horses! Most people don’t believe it can be done because they’ve never seen anyone do it!

Maybe you’ve never invested on horses before. Maybe you have, but didn’t win as much as you’d have liked. Maybe you’re already a “pro”. Whatever your circumstances I guess you joined me because I’ve proved I can win a lot of money from the bookmakers … and you’d like to win too … how? … by investing on racehorses our contacts tell us can win.

How Much Can I Win?

How much can you win? … the sky’s the limit! You can win fortunes … in fact I won so much the cowardly bookmakers closed my accounts and refused to take my bets anymore. Now I don’t want to pretend it’s easy. Sometimes it is … when the horses are winning! But they don’t win all the time. It’s a business of ups and downs.

Let me share some of my own experiences with you … when I started investing on horses I expected to win a fortune right away. Luckily it wasn’t that easy. “Luckily?” I hear you ask in amazement “Surely it’s better to win straight away?” Well in one way of course you’re right! It’s great winning! … but look at it this way. If you win straight away it seems too easy. So you don’t prepare for the hard times. But if you lose initially … well you already know it can be tough so you’re better prepared when things don’t go as well as you expect.

My Learning Curve was Expensive!

Now You can benefit from it …

I lost for 6 straight months! I know that seems unbelievable. So did my friends! They used to say “Bob, you’re crazy. When are you going to give it up?”

Luckily I don’t give up easily … and all the time I was learning. I was getting better and better at judging the horses, the markets and the size of my bets. I did tons of research … and I kept making new contacts with “spies” … shrewd horseracing folk who could supply me with valuable information.

After 6 months I’d lost £35,000! Impressive when you only start with £15,000! But we were in the middle of the last property boom and I had no dependents so I’d re-mortgaged my house for £50,000 (I do NOTrecommend you do this!)

 

In Three Months I won it all back!

£35,000.00!

At the end of 6 months I started winning. In 3 short months I’d won back the £35,000 so was now “level”

And then I started winning … and boy did I win! I took £1,000’s and £1,000’s off the bookies for connections and myself. I specialised as the “guy who could get the money on” and racing professionals flocked to my door.

In the next year I took over £400,000 off the bookies on behalf of connections and myself! The bookies were not happy. One by one they closed the door in my face, closed my accounts and refused my bets.

£400,000.00 in a year!

£8,000.00 a week!

One word of warning! In the year I won £400,000 … I had two losing months! That’s right TWO losing months! Imagine if you’d looked over my shoulder with the intention of making money by copying my bets during one of those months … you’d have thought “No way!” … and you’d have missed out on the chance to win £1,000 a day!

I share this with you because there’ll be times when it seems like we couldn’t pick a winner using tomorrow’s newspaper! There’s been plenty of times I felt like giving racing up altogether!

Bet a 25/1 Winner and

you’ll celebrate for a week!

Of course there’ll be other times when we have so many winners … or winners at such fantastic prices … you’ll wonder why you never did this before. As an example just imagine how you’d have felt if you’d bet one of the horses we did … Grey Kingdom in the Ayr Silver Cup … it won at 25/1! That’s £1,000 for every £40 invested!

One client wrote … “I had £100 each way and won £3,225.00!” another said “When Grey Kingdom went past the line first I was shouting so much the neighbours came round to see what all the noise was about. Thanks Bob”

You have to take the rough with the smooth. I know you can do this because you wouldn’t have joined me unless you were an optimist. But it’s still good to be prepared.

How many winning opportunities each month?

You’ll have around 8-12 opportunities to win each month. You’ll only participate when it suits you. I’ll text, write or email you at times to remind you when we have a suitable opportunity if you haven’t called for a while, or sometimes remind you on the phone. These advices will be for horses strongly fancied to win and carrying professional money.

 

How do I place my bets?

 

The best way to stay “under the radar” is to nip down to your local betting shop and place your bets in cash … whatever you like for yourself, and £50 for connections … and then … collect any winnings whenever we have a successful investment!

There’s something magical about collecting a wad of cash and stuffing it in your wallet so it nearly bursts! I love it! It’s a great feeling and always brings a smile to my face.

FREE Bets!

Get yourself a few £100’s FREE Now!

Having said the above there is a more convenient way to place bets now and that’s by the internet. But you have to be careful and only deal with bookmakers you’ve checked out and can trust.

To save you time I’ve checked out a number of these. Over the years I’ve had a lot of experience with bookmakers and I’ve had accounts with these and they’ve paid me when I won! I’ve also put friends into them who’ve had accounts and got paid too so I know they’re reliable.

What more several of them are offering very generous FREE bets when you open an account. I’ve listed the best of them on my website below.

Be quick if you do want to pick up some free money! Some of these offers won’t last long because it’s been costing the bookies a lot of money when in-the-know entrepreneurial types like yourself have used my techniques to make it Win-Win for yourself!

… So if you want to get started right away you could go to my website now

www.HorseRacingPro.co.uk

 

Click on the “FREE Bets” tab on the website and grab yourself one or two of the offers (I’d start with the £200.00 from “Bet365”, £150.00 from Stan James and £50.00 from Betfred) … and to help you win money risk free I’ve written a report entitled

“How to Cash in on Free Bets from online bookies”

There’s a section in it where I explain how you could win £1,000 risk free using the bookies money! … or guarantee yourself a profit whether the horse wins or loses!!

I used to retail this for £50 but if you’d like a free copy (yes FREE, Complimentary, Gratis!) just let my office know and we’ll email or post you a copy … but the first step is to open those accounts so you lock in the free offer now! You don’t need any money to open the accounts by the way. Leave that till later if you want.

How do I reward connections for winners?

Here’s how my clients reward connections … they send the odds to a £50 bet for each advice … but only if it wins!!! Just send me the winnings from a £50 bet each time you get a winner … and of course you’ll be enjoying your own winning bet so you’ll be winning too. And as the bookie pays the winnings, winners don’t cost you a penny!!

As an example suppose the horse wins at 3/1. £50 at 3/1 wins £150 so you just send me the £150 winnings … NB!! Keep your stake for next time! … and if you’d invested say £200 for yourself … you’d win £600 too!

Quality Information!

… so we win together

I know how good this information is. I could have asked you to send £50, £100 or more in advance for each advice, win or lose. Some tipsters ask for £1,000! … I don’t! … I want to gamble on the win with you! … and so do our connections! … that’s why I prefer you place this £50 on the horse together with your own bet… why? … the reason’s simple! …

First I know a good proportion of these horses will win! That’s why I’m advising them to you in the first place! Secondly I cannot get big bets on myself anymore. Let me tell you about another horse we bet as an example.

The owner had waited more than 6 months for it to win. So he’d spent over £6,000 on training (£1,000 a month to keep a racehorse). He’d agreed to tell me when the horse was ready to win in exchange for me placing a free bet of £1,000 on it for him as a contribution towards his costs.

Nowadays I can’t get that size bet on so I shared it with 20 clients who each placed £50. They were just as much “in the know” for their £50 as the owner was who’d spent £6,000. Now that’s good value isn’t it!?

It’s hard for me to get a bet of more than £200 or £300 on without causing alarm bells to ring. So I share this information with a small group of people, say 20 for example, and they each put £50 on. That covers the “present” for the connections and I can still win with my own bet.

Most importantly we all win together. When you win, I win. I don’t believe in charging for losing information without any risk like so many other racing advisory services do (is that why they have to advertise every day?). That’s why I only expect you to send me money when we win! That way you can be confident I will be only give you horses I think will win. But they won’t all win and I wouldn’t want you to get the wrong impression.

These horses are strongly fancied and are all expected to win by their connections. But experience shows they only win about half the time at best. So take a long term view and don’t put all your money on one horse! I reckon our long term strike rate is around 30-40%. So bet accordingly … and never bet money you can’t afford to lose! These are good bets but not certainties! A sensible policy might be to restrict your bets to 10% of your available betting bank at any one time.

Winners are “FREE”!

When the horse wins the bookie pays your winnings and returns your stake. So you get your own stake back as well as the £50 you invested for connections. So the winner hasn’t cost you a penny piece. It’s the bookie who’s paid everyone out!

You’re in profit from your winnings and connections have recouped some expenses from the £50 you placed for them in exchange for the inside information.

 

How do I send the winnings?

Simply send cash, cheque or postal order or make a Bank Transfer. Best to send the same day if you can. So we can settle with connections quickly … they often let slip details about the next juicy horse when we’re delivering their winnings so I like to send it to them ASAP!

Do I use a betting shop,

telephone or internet account?

 

Up to you. Use betting shops if you love the feeling of winning in cash and want to stay “anonymous” or under the radar. Internet or telephone betting is more convenient and if you’re using a free bet offer from a reputable internet bookmaker then it’s a lot more profitable too!

The reason why using betting shops keeps you under the radar and protects the odds for longer is if you use a telephone or internet account you are plugged directly into the “Trading Room” – the bookmaker’s nerve centre!

Here they can see immediately if a horse is being bet heavily because they’ll be getting phone calls for the same horse from different parts of the country. I have known them put you on hold and wait a minute or two while they send money to the track to reduce the odds before offering you the smaller price! … very annoying!

 

 

Celebrate Your Wins!

Finally I’d just like to say “Welcome” once again. This business is the best in the world when you’re betting winners!

The money flows in effortlessly! On the other hand it’s not much fun when you have the inevitable losers. So make sure you celebrate when you have a good win, it helps carry you through any bad spells!

I hope this letter has explained any queries you might have had … I’ve tried to cover all the points of the basis of our relationship.

Win or lose you can rest assured I’ll be doing my best to supply you with sound Professional Information from our contacts. Like you I’m sure, I look forward to a long and mutually profitable association.

Warm regards

Bob Rothman

Stacking the odds in Your Favour

PS The next bet is on Saturday 9th June (weather permitting). You can call the office around 11.30ish on 01932 869400 or I’ll text you the details and you can just reply with the codeword.

BETTING MASTERCLASS QUIZ

OKAY, SO IT HAS BEEN A WEEK. HOW DID YOU DO? MORE TO THE POINT, HOW DID I DO? NOW IS THE TIME TO FIND OUT… HERE WITH THE ANSWERS, SOME OF WHICH MAY BE CONTENTIOUS; IF YOU DISAGREE, YOU CAN ALWAYS GET IN TOUCH…

CATEGORY 1:What is the trip of the Dante?

A: One Mile. B: One mile-and-a-half. C: One mile two-and-a-half furlongs.

 

C: The Dante is run over one mile-two-and-a-half furlongs.

 

Which sounds more probable:

A: A horse can cover five furlongs in A: Sixty seconds. B: One minute and twenty seconds. C: Fifty seconds.

 

A: Unless a horse is contesting a seller at Catterick that is run in a bog, in which case a time of one minute and twenty seconds is plausible; or the five furlong start was incorrectly positioned a furlong short, so only running only half-a-mile for which fifty seconds would be about right.

 

A horse should clock around a minute to cover five furlongs. It would be slightly less at Epsom in a tailwind.

 

A horse that leads with his off-fore is more likely to be effective on:

A: A left-handed track. B: A right-handed track. C: In a swimming pool.

B: A horse that leads with his off-fore is effectively favouring his right leg, so a right-handed course would be to his advantage, particularly if negotiating a tight track like Kempton.

Which race places the greatest emphasis on stamina?

A: A three-mile chase. B: A three-mile hurdle. C: The Queen Alexandria Stakes.

C: The Queen Alexandria Stakes is my answer. Stripping away the possibility of falsely run races, and for the purposes of this exercise, assume the three events in question are run at an even pace. In which case, for any horse to last 2m 6f on the Flat, in an event run at a far faster gallop than the other two mentioned, stamina reserves are tested to the limit. Surprisingly, a hurdle race places more emphasis on stamina than a chase, which allows its participants to lob round at a snail’s pace whilst superior jumping wins the day. A novice hurdle is often a mere five-furlong sprint, but a handicap hurdle, or the sort staged at Cheltenham, requires its participants to race at a keen clip throughout.

Three pounds in weight is the equivalent over five furlongs to:

A: One length. B: Three lengths. C: One third of a length.

A: Three pounds is equivalent to one length over five furlongs. After that we hit something of a grey area. It is widely acknowledged that over six furlongs 2lbs equals a length. In my opinion, after that it is a pound a length irrespective of distance, but that is not written in stone.

How far is the Cheltenham Gold Cup?

A: Three miles. B: Three-and-a-half miles. C: Three miles two-and-half-furlongs.

C: The Cheltenham Gold Cup is run over three miles-two-and-a-half-furlongs. If you got this question and the Dante one wrong, perhaps you should stop now!

How many fences do they jump in the Grand National?

A: Thirty. B: Forty. C: Twenty-seven.

B: They jump forty fences in the Grand National; although it could be argued the smart ones find a way to either run out, pull up or unseat well before the final scheduled fence.

What is the ideal trip on the Flat for a horse being groomed for a run in a novice hurdle?

A: One Mile. B: Two miles. C: One mile-and-a-half.

A: One mile to a mile-and-a-quarter, even seven furlongs, is considered the ideal distance for a horse racing in a novice hurdle. As previously stated, if said horse can flip over eight flights, most novice events are merely a five-furlong sprint after what has been little more than a hack round. Dour stayers often lack the turn of foot from the last hurdle to finish to effect. For that reason, winners of bumpers are invariably found wanting when running over the minimum distance over timber.

In a slowly run race, what is the ideal position for a runner to adopt?

A: Near the front. B: Out the back. C: In the horsebox on the way home.

A: Near the front, this is common sense when you consider it. If the pace is slow, when it does quicken it is much harder for those that have given the leaders a soft lead to peg them back. Similarly, when the pace is keen, it often pays to let the leaders tear off and wait out the back. It is a pity such elementary facts are lost on some of our jockeys at times!

Which animal can run the fastest?

A: Racehorse. B: Cheetah. C: The animal the cheetah is chasing.

B: The cheetah is the fastest animal in the world, recording speeds in excess of sixty miles an hour. However, this can only be sustained for a relatively short burst. A cheetah has been clocked travelling at 64 miles per hour over a furlong. It is not known how he would fare up the Newmarket hill in the last furlong of the July Cup. But over a furlong, not only could a cheetah overtake a racehorse but also eat it for breakfast, along with anything else it is able to get a clean run at.

CATEGORY 2:

In France how are horses drawn?

A: From left to right. B: From right to left. C: The stewards decide on the morning of the race dependent on how many British horses are taking part.

B: In France horse are loaded in the stalls from right to left, so at right-handed Longchamp, 1 is on the rail and 15 on the outside, at least on the round course. However, being France, an exception is made in the Abbaye where, being on a straight course, they load from left to right. Confusing? Of course, the French would not have it any other way!

In Ireland which is the most testing ground?

A: Heavy. B: Yielding. C: Soft.

A: Heavy to be sure!

Where is soft ground most likely to be encountered?

A: Punchestown. B: Chepstow. C: Henley.

C: Henley, where for the Regatta the going is always soft. Bit of a trick question this.

A horse with a high knee action is most likely to prefer?

A: Soft ground. B: Fast ground. C: An arena in a circus.

A: A horse with a high knee action is invariably going to be suited by soft ground. Although, if those legs are lifted too high it could find itself spending so much time in the air that it might end up in a circus.

The Polytrack surface most resembles

A: Soft turf ground. B: Dirt. C: Good to fast turf ground.

C: Polytrack is just about the perfect surface for a racehorse yet we still hear commentators posing the question: will so-and-so act on this surface? Any horse that is unable to function on Polytrack is simply not a racehorse.

The weight-for age-scale allows three-year-olds in the King George VI & Queen Elizabeth II Stakes

A: 10lbs. B: One stone. C: 12lbs.

C: Three-year-olds receive 12lbs from their seniors in the King George. It used to be a stone but it was felt that this gave an unfair advantage to the younger generation. So the scale, that had withstood a century or two, was changed in favour of the older horses to the tune of 2lbs.

In an all-age Group 1 race, what horse carries top weight?

A: One of four-years or more. B: None as they all carry the same. C: There is no such thing as a horse carrying top weight in a Group 1.

C: This is a moot point, but although there is a variance in weights according to age and sex, there is technically no such thing as a horse carrying top weight in a Group 1. The weight-for-age scale is designed to ensure that all horses have the same chance in a Group 1 and as no penalties apply, all horses effectively carry the same weight.

Which of the all-weather tracks has built their artificial track on the outside of the turf course?

A: Lingfield. B: Southwell. C: Kempton.

B: Southwell is the only artificial track laid outside the turf equivalent. The reason being that as they used a relatively cheap material – sand – they could afford it.

At Ascot on the straight course, where is it best to be drawn?

A: Stands’ side. B: Far Side. C: No one knows.

C: No one does know where you want to be drawn on the straight course at Ascot until it is too late and the results are in. The re-laid turf was placed on top of sand, meaning it drains quickly as sand is porous. So watering is never even and although rainfall is, the rate at which the water seeps away varies. The Ascot authorities deny this but results speak for themselves. It has become a tricky track to bet on, which is nothing short of a scandal.

At the Cheltenham Festival what attribute is most needed to give a horse a chance of winning?

A: The ability to jump and race at speed from flag fall. B: To cope with a big occasion without sweating up. C: Being ridden by Tony McCoy or Ruby Walsh.

A: Cheltenham is something of a law unto itself, particularly at the Festival. Races are run at breakneck speed so it is essential for a horse to find a rhythm from the outset and sustain it. So often, chasers and hurdlers that have been impressive on park courses are all at sea when faced with the frenetic pace of a race at the Festival and can be nominated as losers some way out. It is a factor often overlooked.

What is most likely to prevent a horse from winning?

A: Being drawn twelve of twelve at Chester. B: Being drawn one of twelve at Beverley in a race over five furlongs. C: Being Lesley Graham’s charity bet on the Morning Line.

C: Lesley Graham has succeeded the infamous Lord Oaksey as one of the worst tipsters in the world. On the assumption that a bad draw at both Beverley and Chester will result in any sensible punter overlooking a possible selection, and ultimately in a vet’s certificate resulting in a horse’s withdrawal, the logical answer has to be Lesley as she could stop a train.

CATEGORY 3:What is the most important component in finding a winning opportunity for a horse?

A: Racing on the right ground. B: Making sure it is running over the best trip. C: Employing the services of a top jockey.

B: A horse will always give his best performance when racing over the right trip. Good horses, or even indifferent ones, can perform on unsuitable ground, and of course the services of a good jockey is a bonus. But run a horse over the wrong trip and it is extremely unlikely to perform to its best.

What day of the week is the hardest to find winners?

A: Saturday. B: Sunday. C: Monday.

A: Littered with televised handicaps, Saturday is by far the hardest day of the week to find winners. In a business dominated by bookmakers it also happens to be the biggest betting day of the week, but that is surely no more than coincidence!

If you place a £100 each-way on a horse that is placed at 10/1 at one-fifth the odds, what overall price are you paid out at?

A: 2/1. B: Evens. C: 1/2.

C: If the horse is only placed then you have forfeited your winning stake. Therefore, your outlay is two hundred pounds and your return £300, making your net return equivalent to 1/2.

As a fraction, what price does 85/40 also represent?

A: 9/4. B: 18/8. C: 17/8.

C: 85/40 is only the next extension to 15/8. For some reason some drunken bookmaker decided to call this top-heavy fraction 85/40 and it stuck. Rarely used these days, but 17/8 is a much friendlier and easily understood fraction to deal with.

Which is the biggest price?

A: 5/6. B:10/11. C: 4/5.

B: To a £1 stake 5/6 returns £1.83, 10/11 – £ 1.91 and 4/5 £1.80. Of course if you reverse the prices so that they are odds against then you also reverse the answer.

In America winning dividends are paid to a stake of

A: One dollar. B: Five dollars. C: Two dollars.

C: In America, the Tote returns its dividend to a $2 stake.

If you are in the box seat you are:

A: In second place. B: In the lead. C: Sitting on Jim McGrath’s knee?

A: The box seat was something unheard of until Aussie Jim McGrath introduced us to it on his arrival as commentator at our racecourses. I assume is refers to the seat in one of those old-fashioned Leyland buses where it is possible to sit on the humpy part of the gearbox just behind the driver.

If you back a horse that dead-heats you receive

A: Half the odds. B: Your money is returned. C: Odds to half your stake?

C: A dead-heat means you receive odds to half your stake, not half the odds. There is a difference! Half of 4/1 is 2/1. Half your stake on a horse that dead-heats means you are being paid out at 6/4.

When was the last time you backed a winner?

A: Yesterday. B: Can’t remember. C: So that’s what it is all about!

As for the last question, I fear my answer is B, but I trust yours is more encouraging.

Betting and Gambling  Discussions

This is the area of the website for discussions on various aspects of betting, gambling and picking winners.

These articles have been submitted by friends and colleagues I’ve worked with in Racing over the last 20 years.

Racing and successful gambling is a matter of opinion. You think you are right and the bookmaker wrong  – so you pay to find out, putting your money where your mouth is.  If you’re successful then over a period of time you will make money.

But being a successful Professional Punter does not mean you will be right all the time. Far from it – in fact you’ll be lucky to be right half the time. But you can win plenty of money being right only 30% of the time.  Check out our results if you need any convincing.

By the same token, that you won’t  be right all the time, you will also miss things from time to time. That’s why I believe it makes good sense to build a team. A team whose opinions are valued. You may not agree with their opinions on any one subject, but over a period of time they will hopefully alert you to sufficient profitable betting opportunities (or steer you away from losing ones!) to make their input invaluable.

The opinions expressed here are from a  variety of sources and Professionals. I do not necessarily agree with all of the views. But I do value their input so digest their comments and see if anything helps you with your own betting. I’ve found different viewpoints helpful. There are many different angles and hopefull you will find these helpful in your Professional Betting Career.

If you have articles or information you might like to share please contact me using the contact tab.

Good luck

Bob Rothman

PS If you’d like to review the day’s racing and check one of our race readers’ views against your own check out the daily track notes

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SPY TURNS AGONY AUNT 

And answers your seasonal Questions

Dear Smart Ass:

I have an ante-post betting slip for Cue Card in Boxing Day’s King George VI Chase. Having read your recent article concerning the importance of a betting edge, Playing The Percentages, I was perturbed by your comments regarding the horse’s apparent preference for left-handed tracks and your statement that he has never won right-handed. Consequently I re-checked Cue Card’s racing record only to discover he won at Exeter in November of last year. According to official descriptions of the track, it is right-handed.

Spy says: Given there are only two choices (left or right), then technically it is; but were there such a description as Isosceles-triangular-shaped, I suggest that would suit better. However, you are correct in your assessment that Exeter shows a right-handed bias. Good luck with the bet. (Phew… think I got away with that one!) 

 

Dear Mr Spleen:

I am a married lady of many years, now in my early fifties. A few years ago, during lovemaking sessions with my husband, to help the process along I used to fantasise that it was David Beckham that was making love to me. Last Christmas, having watched Mr Sam Waley-Cohen ride Long Run to victory in the big race at Kempton on Boxing Day, for some reason I have switched allegiance. Now I can’t seem to get Mr Waley- Cohen’s image out of my head (don’t you just love a man with a double-barrelled name?) even when my husband is not – err, treating me to his version of a performance. Have you any idea what I can do?

Spy says: Buy some glasses.

 

Hello Mate:

Just recently my betting has plumbed new depths. Truthfully, I can’t remember when I last backed a winner. It has got so bad that I am merely ticking off selections in the paper and monitoring their progress, feeling it is a cheaper alternative than backing everything I fancy.

Now my selections have started to win. As a result I missed a 7/1 winner last Saturday and a 9/2 winner this week. The question is, should I return to my betting ways now the tide seems to have turned, or continue to sit the whole thing out? I am frightened that as soon as I start playing with real money again everything will start losing.

Spy says: In most cases ticking off selections in a paper and monitoring their progress is a cheaper alternative than backing them. But if you wish to return to the betting jungle, your present dilemma is a common one for the gambler. The worst thing you can do is to let poor past results affect the future. If you do that you will make bad decisions and bad decisions have a habit of begetting even worse ones. Changing a proven strategy of backing horses (or anything for that matter) is likely to have an adverse effect on subsequent results. Before you know it you will be playing fruit machines, buying scratch cards and doing the lottery. I suggest you only resume betting when you feel better disposed toward the game – possibly in 2018.

 

Dear Spy:

Last Saturday I left the house early, leaving my husband in front of the television awaiting the start of the Morning Line. Intent of Christmas shopping, I took the car. After a few hundred yards the engine spluttered and the car came to an abrupt halt. I was able to park it by the kerb and walk back home to get my husband’s help. Once through the door I almost fell to the floor in disbelief. My husband was perched astride the arm of the sofa wearing a pair of jodhpurs, riding boots, a jockey cap and brandishing a whip whilst apparently riding out a finish and shouting, “What do you think of this Tanya?” I am 26, my husband is 28 and we have been married seven years. He has never expressed this kind of intense interest in racing before. His excuse for such irrational behaviour was he had been meaning to take riding lessons and often took tips from the guests and presenters appearing on Channel Four Racing. However, when I questioned him further he broke down and admitted he finds himself increasingly attracted to some lady betting person called Tanya Stevenson. I informed him such behaviour was intolerable from a grown man and that any recurrence would result in my leaving our marital home. Although I have not caught him ogling her on television lately, he has now started calling out her name in his sleep.

What do think is the best course of action?

Spy says: Winter is no time to be caught out by a temperamental vehicle. A car can stall for a variety of reasons. Often it is a carburettor fault or it could be the plugs or alternator. Assuming you are not a member of any of the motorist organisations, it is probably best to book it in at a garage. Chances are the remedy will prove to be simple and relatively inexpensive.

 

Dear Spy:

Ten years ago my husband filed for bankruptcy. Up to that point we had a profitable and thriving roofing business but it came to light he owed bookmakers tens of thousands of pounds and that his gambling had meant he had lost everything we had and more. After a period in therapy he appeared to be cured, but recently I caught my husband writing out a betting slip. Although he protested it was only in fun and that he had no intention of placing the wager, given that his past record suggests he couldn’t back a winner if he had a copy of tomorrow’s paper, what do you think I should do?

Spy says: Keep a copy of yesterday’s paper for him to read in future.

 

Hello Old Boy:

I have met a wonderful girl through a dating website. Not only is she stunning-looking but, as she loves horseracing we also have plenty in common. The trouble is she likes to attend race meetings and always expects to be taken to the members’ enclosure in style. She also has a taste for oysters and champagne. As you know going racing is hardly cheap at the best of times, therefore entertaining this filly is costing me a fortune. It has got to the stage when only a bonanza betting afternoon will finance her excesses. I have tried suggesting less extravagant dates, or even watching the racing together on television, but she claims that is not the same as a visit to the races complete with all the trimmings. She only seems to come alive when indulging in the high life and hanging out of the balcony of a private box at some racecourse, after which she stays over at my place. On the occasions we have met for a night at the movies or a low-key meal locally (I live in Basingstoke), she has always found an excuse to end the evening prematurely. Recently the bank has sent me a warning letter informing me I am in danger of exceeding my overdraft. I dearly love her company but am not sure I can afford to keep bankrolling these financially crippling jaunts. Any suggestions?

Spy says: You sound a right pair. I am assuming you know she is only after you for your money and that you are only after her for her … attributes. That being the case your relationship is doomed to be a short-lived one. That said, from your perspective the trick is to spin it out as long as possible, before she realises that instead of being the high-roller you have either pretended to be, or the cheapskate you actually are, you are overcome by her undoubted beauty and charm. However, don’t be fooled; she is hardly your average girl. From what you say, to quote Sir Winston Churchill, we know what sort of girl she is, we are merely haggling over the price. If you are sufficiently desperate, you could try telling her you are a bit strapped for cash as you have just had the bill from your bookmaker for your wager on Rocky Creek in the Hennessy. As a result you need to take it easy for a week or two while you find the money to settle up. The trouble with that is no woman (especially a gold-digger) wants to think they are saddled with a loser – worse, someone betting over his head. So you could compensate by telling her you have advanced-booked for the two of you to visit Dubai for the Gold Cup weekend in March. That might keep her on the boil long enough for you to get your money’s worth. That is until she discovers you are as shallow as she is and not in her league.

 

Hello Darling:

With Christmas approaching I am not sure if I should give my new boyfriend of ten months what he says he wants as a present. He would like to join a well-known racing syndicate and have a share in a racehorse. It is not that I can’t afford it; to be honest I come from a privileged background, but as I only requested a new mobile phone from him, I feel there is something of a balance to strike here. He is already sufficiently obsessed with all matters relating to horseracing as it is without me encouraging him further.

What do you think?

 

Spy says: I can’t say I like the sound of this. It may be better to give than receive, but it would appear your boyfriend proposes taking this to a whole new level. I mean, who does he think he is? A racehorse for Christmas! Unless your privileged background extends to the Aga Khan and his immediate family, I would send him a voucher to say he has contributed toward a fresh water scheme somewhere in India. Maybe you could send it to him by download on your new mobile phone…

 

Dear Mr Bond – is it:

I have a dilemma to share. As usual my husband and I have visitors on Boxing Day. The problem is that my husband will want to monopolise our only television in the afternoon to watch horse racing from, is it Hyde Park? Our visitors are quite straight-laced and have no interest in sport. Certainly they don’t deserve to be exposed to my husband’s antics. They would much rather play scrabble or watch a nice film over a glass of sherry and a mince pie. This is not possible as we have one large dining/sitting room and the television is a rather imposing fifty-inch version, which is not too unlike my lardy husband’s waist measurements these days. No one will want to see Reginald shouting and cheering to the strains of a race commentary as he slurps from his second bottle of Rioja. I mean it hardly makes for a peaceful afternoon does it?

Surely there must be something I can do.

Yours in desperation (name withheld).

Spy says: A number of possible solutions spring to mind. You could try telling your lardy husband that racing at Hyde Park is cancelled due to a last-minute Rolling Stones concert. But actually, as racing takes place at Kempton Park, that is unlikely to work. Alternatively you could cross your fingers and wish for a heavy snowfall on Christmas night; but, according to latest weather forecasts, prospects of that coming to the rescue seem remote. Being more practical, how about giving him a television as a Christmas gift, that way he could watch the big race in another room – out of sight is out of mind and all that. Better still; why not get rid of him completely. Yes, you could poison his turkey portion, hack him into little pieces, place him in the freezer and feed him to the wild life this winter – but that sounds risky and like hard work. Less drastically, you could buy him a ticket to Kempton Park races on Boxing Day and even ring round and see if any local travel firms are running a coach to the track. If they are not, maybe you could tell him he is on his way to Sunbury when it fact you have booked him on a (one-way?) trip to Dusseldorf and their Christmas market. That way you may not have to suffer him again until next year.